How to Achieve True Chiro-Success: How to Thrive Using Your Unique Talents

January 11, 2022 00:47:02
How to Achieve True Chiro-Success: How to Thrive Using Your Unique Talents
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How to Achieve True Chiro-Success: How to Thrive Using Your Unique Talents

Jan 11 2022 | 00:47:02

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Welcome to Catch Up with ChiroTouch with Dr. Ronnie Simms. The educational and inspirational podcast series with chiropractic’s most influential speakers.

In this episode, Dr. Ron Oberstein, President of Life University West, self-reflects on talent, success, and happiness. He gives listeners a fresh perspective on how to turn the feelings of being stuck in your career or needing to chase after the next big thing into a true success story (Hint: it’s not what you do, but rather your mindset that determines success).   For more ideas on how your practice can thrive, download the free ebook, "The Best Solution for Every Type of Practice."

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:04.400 Welcome to this edition of catch up with Kira touch. I'm your host, 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:08.390 Dr Ronnie Sims. I'm so glad you tuned in today. You are in 3 00:00:08.589 --> 00:00:12.789 for a real treat. The subject matters great, but the guest is even 4 00:00:12.830 --> 00:00:16.510 better. So super excited about this one. I've been jazz all day and 5 00:00:16.589 --> 00:00:22.940 so let's just get started. These podcast series represent Kira touches ongoing commitment to 6 00:00:23.019 --> 00:00:27.940 the chiropractic profession and, most importantly, to the chiropract door. The gold 7 00:00:28.059 --> 00:00:32.259 with these episodes is to help support you, to inspire you, to educate 8 00:00:32.299 --> 00:00:36.729 you, to reach your full potential. Right now, the world needs chiropractors 9 00:00:36.810 --> 00:00:40.530 to be at their best more than ever, and so today we're excited to 10 00:00:41.250 --> 00:00:46.850 carry on our conversation around this topic of Chiropractic success and what that looks like. 11 00:00:47.450 --> 00:00:51.880 In the last two episodes we talked a little bit about how doctors can 12 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:56.640 go about finding their true identity and Chiropractic, and the second episode we kind 13 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.439 of went a step further and said, okay, now that you've kind of 14 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:03.159 discovered who you are, what are some appropriate steps you can take within our 15 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.189 beautiful profession? of So many different ways we can go, and today we're 16 00:01:07.189 --> 00:01:14.989 going to talk about how to achieve lasting, sustainable chiropractic success and we could 17 00:01:15.030 --> 00:01:19.939 not have a better guest on than Dr Ron Oberstein. Dr Ron is the 18 00:01:19.980 --> 00:01:23.939 president of life West University, but he did that in the in the wake 19 00:01:25.019 --> 00:01:30.739 of having an incredible chiropractic career, a vibrant family wellness practice that continues to 20 00:01:30.819 --> 00:01:34.010 live on in San Diego. He and his wonderful wife and his three daughters 21 00:01:34.090 --> 00:01:40.530 and his two brothers are all practicing chiropractors and this guy lives breeze and just 22 00:01:40.730 --> 00:01:44.209 exudes everything chiropractic. So, Dr Ron, I'm so glad you're on with 23 00:01:44.290 --> 00:01:47.920 me today. Buddy. Well, I'm I'm thrilled to be here, Dr 24 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:49.359 on. So we're just going to dive right in. I think the first 25 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:53.760 thing I want to talk about is so we work through these two episodes where 26 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.159 we talked about going through a period of self discovery, whether it be in 27 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:01.750 the wake of school or maybe you're feeling stuck. So encouraging doctors to look 28 00:02:01.829 --> 00:02:06.670 inward and to maybe do some objective discovery, to learn a little bit more 29 00:02:06.709 --> 00:02:10.110 about themselves so that they can begin to look at Chiropractic with more optimism and 30 00:02:10.550 --> 00:02:15.229 and realize that, you know, there maybe just in the wrong spot and 31 00:02:15.349 --> 00:02:17.780 that they need to reshuffle the deck and try something new. And so today 32 00:02:17.780 --> 00:02:22.539 I want to pivot this and have you kind of speak into this and really 33 00:02:22.620 --> 00:02:25.659 talk about this topic of success. So what have you heard what I just 34 00:02:25.780 --> 00:02:30.930 said? Would you add any nuggets or any pearls of wisdom to that as 35 00:02:30.009 --> 00:02:35.210 far as helping that guy that's stuck or even helping that young lady who just 36 00:02:35.289 --> 00:02:38.969 doesn't know who she is yet? It's always been, you know, probably 37 00:02:38.210 --> 00:02:43.849 through eons of time, that it's normal to be stuck, you know. 38 00:02:44.090 --> 00:02:46.719 I mean everyone thinks they need to constantly be just driving up, up, 39 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:51.319 up, up, up, up up, you know, and stuck as 40 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:55.439 a good place to be. So most people freeze when they're stuck, you 41 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.349 know, and they freak out, and when they freak out they start to 42 00:02:59.509 --> 00:03:01.150 try to go really hard and if you ever been a quicksand, it just 43 00:03:01.189 --> 00:03:06.030 kind of makes you sink even faster, right, and then they get into 44 00:03:06.030 --> 00:03:08.590 a state of fear. But knowing that when you're stuck, it's a great 45 00:03:08.669 --> 00:03:14.379 opportunity to see where you're stuck, where you're at, and what do you 46 00:03:14.539 --> 00:03:20.900 need to do or go back to to get unstuck so you can continue to 47 00:03:21.020 --> 00:03:24.139 move. So the number one I don't want to have it be that the 48 00:03:24.259 --> 00:03:31.129 personification around being stuck is a negative, because it's not right and if you 49 00:03:31.250 --> 00:03:36.810 can see it as a positive, it makes it that much easier to move 50 00:03:36.889 --> 00:03:40.169 forward. So I can add that. The second thing is that when people 51 00:03:40.169 --> 00:03:47.159 are usually in their stuckness or feeling like they're just not happy with what they're 52 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:52.759 doing or whatever it might be, is it always ninety nine percent of the 53 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:57.669 time it comes down to just losing your purpose, you know, losing one's 54 00:03:57.750 --> 00:04:01.310 purpose. There why? Like, why are we doing what we're doing? 55 00:04:01.389 --> 00:04:04.710 I give you a good example. I can't tell you how many docks and 56 00:04:05.110 --> 00:04:09.909 including myself and including probably every viewer that's out there, unless you've only a 57 00:04:09.949 --> 00:04:14.259 practicing for a day or two, you know when we're stuck. You know 58 00:04:14.379 --> 00:04:17.699 if I took you when you're in a stuck position and I took you on 59 00:04:17.779 --> 00:04:21.300 one of our service trips, and let's just say we go to India, 60 00:04:21.420 --> 00:04:25.970 we go to Tonga, you know wherever we go with you know life, 61 00:04:26.009 --> 00:04:30.329 carpractor college west and you go to serve and I get you to a place 62 00:04:30.490 --> 00:04:34.250 where all you're doing is just taking care of people and you're not thinking anymore. 63 00:04:34.889 --> 00:04:41.319 You're feeling, your heart is open, you are just seeing amazing things 64 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.079 happen with people in front of you. People are thrilled to see you. 65 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:47.160 It's really incredible how you get unstuck, you know, next thing you know 66 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:53.389 you're not feeling that heaviness and that that that whatever it is, that that 67 00:04:53.550 --> 00:04:59.470 happens the individuals at different times of their stuckness. So you it's getting rejoined 68 00:04:59.629 --> 00:05:02.990 in with your purpose, reconnected to your purpose, or whatever that purpose is 69 00:05:03.149 --> 00:05:09.500 for you. You know my purpose and aren't my practice is purpose that Mary 70 00:05:09.540 --> 00:05:13.019 and I, Dr Mary, my wife and myself, you know, were 71 00:05:13.180 --> 00:05:16.579 in for many, many, many years, thirty something plush years. It 72 00:05:16.740 --> 00:05:23.290 was really about having people be able to experience they're true innate self and work 73 00:05:23.329 --> 00:05:27.449 at the highest level possible. It's available to them, right, and that's 74 00:05:27.490 --> 00:05:30.329 what we were about. We have people coming with back pain. Sure, 75 00:05:30.529 --> 00:05:33.449 I mean, I'd be honest with you. I probably wouldn't see myself if 76 00:05:33.449 --> 00:05:36.920 I had severe back pain. That wasn't the kind of doctor that I excel 77 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:41.279 that as my that wasn't one of my superpowers. I should say, but 78 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:45.319 I certainly knew what to do and can handle myself around it. But really, 79 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.120 you know, what we love to do is get those people to the 80 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:50.350 point where, you know they're under care for ten years, fifteen years, 81 00:05:50.389 --> 00:05:56.509 two thousand and twenty five, they're thirty, thirty five years, and understand 82 00:05:56.670 --> 00:06:02.069 that that they have them understand that within them is a far greater potential than 83 00:06:02.110 --> 00:06:05.379 they were ever led to believe. And you know, that was our purpose. 84 00:06:05.779 --> 00:06:10.740 So it really comes down to finding what that purpose is, doc and 85 00:06:10.980 --> 00:06:14.300 and and being able to move with that and know where to go back to 86 00:06:14.379 --> 00:06:17.060 to find that purpose. I love how you said that, doc I mean 87 00:06:17.769 --> 00:06:21.410 that state of stuckness is often thought of such a negative and I love how 88 00:06:21.410 --> 00:06:26.370 you spun that. Now that's beautiful and it's just a great opportunity for us 89 00:06:26.370 --> 00:06:30.449 right to do some personal reflection and to and I also love when you said 90 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:33.800 about purpose. I think it's so especially lately, it's easy for docs to 91 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:38.759 get off their purpose and they always talk about what they do, and I 92 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.319 love how you frame that with the why? Perfect answer. Man. I 93 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.680 love that. I'm taking some notes. You know, it's interest also, 94 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:49.189 is that is that it? You know what we listen to? What do 95 00:06:49.310 --> 00:06:54.189 we fill our mind with right you know, I mean look at these past 96 00:06:54.189 --> 00:06:57.790 years right now, and you know, people watching CNN and Fox and all 97 00:06:57.829 --> 00:07:00.029 the debates and all this and all this that we fill our mind with, 98 00:07:00.189 --> 00:07:04.259 you know, and and and I tell you what, doc I just can't 99 00:07:04.300 --> 00:07:08.579 believe. You know, I'm not a big facebook guy, but you know, 100 00:07:08.579 --> 00:07:11.060 if I do go on it when I'm traveling, I'll be on a 101 00:07:11.139 --> 00:07:15.379 plane and I'll just scroll through and I just can't believe the amount of Chiropractors 102 00:07:15.420 --> 00:07:19.529 I see on facebook during working hours. Like it's just crazy. You know, 103 00:07:19.569 --> 00:07:24.689 if if you got this much time to be posting, liking or whatever 104 00:07:24.810 --> 00:07:27.250 that whatever that stuff is. You know, like, what are you doing? 105 00:07:27.370 --> 00:07:32.800 And I it reminds me of a story about a chiropractor named John Boutwell. 106 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:36.759 John Boutwell was on the Board of Life College with Dr Sid Williams. 107 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:42.040 He spoke on the d platform for many, many years. His two sons 108 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:48.470 were in school with me and and and Dr Boutwell was all about tuning into 109 00:07:48.550 --> 00:07:54.149 Na right, like finding that power spot right, and so anytime he got 110 00:07:54.310 --> 00:07:58.779 stuck he had a place that he went to. Item the said I went 111 00:07:58.860 --> 00:08:01.300 to and I learned this from him. Right, I will go to the 112 00:08:01.379 --> 00:08:03.180 ocean. I when I was in San Diego, there was a place on 113 00:08:03.220 --> 00:08:07.180 law street that I would just go over and I'd sit on this cliff, 114 00:08:07.259 --> 00:08:09.300 a bottle put where that was a park, and I feet would dangle over 115 00:08:09.420 --> 00:08:11.740 and I would just see the ocean. That made me feel so small. 116 00:08:13.250 --> 00:08:16.930 It made me realize my problems are just this big compared to this vast notion 117 00:08:18.329 --> 00:08:20.449 that's out there. and well, what bout? Well did Dr Boutwell, 118 00:08:20.490 --> 00:08:24.970 he would go out, he found a stump in the forest and he would 119 00:08:24.970 --> 00:08:26.920 just sit on the stump and that was his spot that he can kind of 120 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.839 reconnect with himself, right, like me on on the cliff right and just 121 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.399 reconnect. And the Guy Finally, one day he got so smart he hired 122 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.480 two of his patients to go, or whatever number patients they went and they 123 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.309 dug up the spot and said of him having the walk out to go to 124 00:08:41.389 --> 00:08:45.429 the woods and get him to go to his tree stump. Right. They 125 00:08:45.549 --> 00:08:48.710 brought the tree stump to him one of the rooms in the office that whatever 126 00:08:48.750 --> 00:08:52.029 he felt stuck. That's where he went. It doesn't matter where it is. 127 00:08:54.149 --> 00:08:56.100 You know, the concept isn't about having some kind of magic pill. 128 00:08:56.419 --> 00:09:01.139 It's about what is it that gets you more connected? What is it that 129 00:09:01.299 --> 00:09:05.460 gets you to that space that you're you're forgetting about all this roof brain stuff 130 00:09:05.580 --> 00:09:09.769 and you're literally, you know, back in your power source, right, 131 00:09:09.850 --> 00:09:13.970 you know, back tuned in and plugged in to the to the innate within 132 00:09:15.129 --> 00:09:18.210 you, and being able to connect there. And that's really what it comes 133 00:09:18.250 --> 00:09:20.929 down to. There's a lot of ways to get there, but everyone knows 134 00:09:20.009 --> 00:09:24.559 how they get there. It's just getting clearer. Asking others. When do 135 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.480 you see me be the freest? When do you see me when I'm not, 136 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.159 you know, stuck, so to speak, and from what am I 137 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.039 like and let other people listen to other people, take inventory, you know, 138 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.559 and be able to share with you what that is? That's beautiful and 139 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.429 I think that speaks into so many different things, that staying connected right. 140 00:09:41.470 --> 00:09:46.950 Chiropractors seem to be notorious to get so, you know, head down, 141 00:09:48.070 --> 00:09:52.789 butt up and they get disconnected from Chiropractic, whether it be the source of 142 00:09:52.830 --> 00:09:56.940 Chiropractrick or other chiropractors or even a really good sea in your life. They 143 00:09:56.980 --> 00:10:01.940 can speak truth and you not beautiful doc. I love that and I'm going 144 00:10:01.980 --> 00:10:05.379 to I have my place too, and I just think how you said that's 145 00:10:05.460 --> 00:10:09.690 perfect. I thought you were going to say headphones on working on your three 146 00:10:09.769 --> 00:10:13.490 point shot, but it's probably another place for you. Right. It is. 147 00:10:15.169 --> 00:10:16.970 I'm a hooper, dislike you. Man. I'm okay. So this 148 00:10:18.169 --> 00:10:22.320 next question, and I know you know this from years of coaching and being 149 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.720 in practice, but now being at the school, I want you to speak 150 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.399 to three specific groups right now and I want you to think of some just 151 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:33.039 little nugget of success steps you might give these three groups. The first group 152 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.110 is that doctor who you just mentioned. He's in a state of stuckness and 153 00:10:39.429 --> 00:10:41.470 he's he or she's just kind of stuck and maybe, like you said, 154 00:10:41.509 --> 00:10:45.470 they're not moving the deer in the headlights and they don't have to do and 155 00:10:46.830 --> 00:10:50.340 you know, maybe it's starting their own practice or finding a different associate position. 156 00:10:52.019 --> 00:10:56.139 That first group. You know, the the key around that that I 157 00:10:56.259 --> 00:11:00.019 see, at least you know, and that I've coached many thousands of doctors 158 00:11:00.059 --> 00:11:03.570 with, is is let's go into a discipline state. You know, the 159 00:11:03.649 --> 00:11:07.409 minute we start to think and we get stuck in our heads and nothing is 160 00:11:07.529 --> 00:11:11.409 right and do I need to change my practice and do I need to change 161 00:11:11.450 --> 00:11:13.330 my associate chip job? And, you know, should I fire this person? 162 00:11:13.409 --> 00:11:20.720 That? You never make a decision based on how you are when things 163 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:22.399 aren't well, right. I mean you don't do that. That's not what 164 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.440 you do. It's kind of like someone going to trying to diagnose himself in 165 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:30.120 the mirror, looking through eyes that aren't working. Well. You know it 166 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:31.909 look, it's just it just doesn't make sense. So, you know, 167 00:11:33.190 --> 00:11:35.870 we always instead of the pointing the finger out, it always needs to be 168 00:11:37.029 --> 00:11:41.149 pointed in, right, that's the first place we point and look to yourself. 169 00:11:41.190 --> 00:11:43.470 Right. But what do you do around that? You know. Well, 170 00:11:43.509 --> 00:11:46.789 I used to coach people. What in my first thing would be? 171 00:11:46.830 --> 00:11:48.299 I'd say, let's get discipline. You know, I get them on a 172 00:11:48.340 --> 00:11:52.259 discipline of thirty day discipline. Maybe it was thirty days without eating sugar. 173 00:11:52.299 --> 00:11:58.460 Maybe here's thirty days of exercising straight. Maybe we was thirty days of of 174 00:11:58.460 --> 00:12:03.370 meditating, whatever it was, it was thirty days, right, and have 175 00:12:03.730 --> 00:12:07.490 twenty one days and Greens of habit right, and just add extra nine days 176 00:12:07.570 --> 00:12:11.450 in for the for the secret sauce, to kind of put yourself back into 177 00:12:11.529 --> 00:12:15.409 this place, right. So it's always going here first, just like we 178 00:12:15.529 --> 00:12:18.759 teaching chiropractic. Right. It's above down, inside out, not outside in. 179 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.200 So go within, right. And then when they do a discipline, 180 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.279 that the disciplines we used to do with people. There's a vast majority, 181 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:28.559 but it was always like this. You go thirty days straight, no problem 182 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.269 if you miss a day, but if you miss a day, the next 183 00:12:31.309 --> 00:12:35.590 day's Day one again. Right. So when you start again, right, 184 00:12:35.830 --> 00:12:41.070 and what happens is people get to understand doc their educated voice inside. Hmm, 185 00:12:41.509 --> 00:12:43.539 let's just say we're saying, I might say to you, and let's 186 00:12:43.539 --> 00:12:46.220 play this. We will roll play this. Okay. Right. So, 187 00:12:46.299 --> 00:12:50.500 Dr Ronnie, you know you're come in and you had all kinds of issues 188 00:12:50.580 --> 00:12:52.259 going on in age, feeling stock and I whatever it might be, right, 189 00:12:52.539 --> 00:12:56.940 and you're thinking about moving, you're thinking about changing, you're thinking about 190 00:12:56.019 --> 00:12:58.649 doing whatever. You know everything on the outside, and I'll say to you, 191 00:12:58.889 --> 00:13:01.570 Hey, let me ask you a question. Tell me one of your 192 00:13:01.610 --> 00:13:05.409 vices, like, like what are one of the things you love? Like 193 00:13:05.570 --> 00:13:07.289 it like, and I'm not talking about going to Hawaii, but I'm tell 194 00:13:07.289 --> 00:13:09.450 amost something you like to do, like on a daily level, or at 195 00:13:09.450 --> 00:13:13.480 least three, four or five times, and nothing that's healthy for you, 196 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.240 not like exercise with think something like that. You know. Is it eating 197 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.639 an ice cream? Is it having a beer every day? You know, 198 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.080 what is one of those vices that you that that is part of you? 199 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.669 Binge, watching mindless netflix shows? Yeah, good, just did that yesterday 200 00:13:28.710 --> 00:13:31.950 actually, I was on a flight. Been Watch binge, watching good so, 201 00:13:33.070 --> 00:13:35.269 binge, watching that Netflix ones. And you tend to do this. 202 00:13:35.470 --> 00:13:39.429 How many times a week you tend to do it? We're wrong. Once 203 00:13:39.509 --> 00:13:43.340 a week. Okay, so I'm want something a little bit more than just 204 00:13:43.539 --> 00:13:46.620 once a week, something that's more of a vice that you do like on 205 00:13:46.700 --> 00:13:48.379 a regular level. And you know that kind of thing. Like tell me 206 00:13:48.460 --> 00:13:52.179 some of the foods that you that you love it. You tend to eat 207 00:13:52.220 --> 00:13:54.379 a lot of that, mighty might know, might not be. Doesn't matter 208 00:13:54.419 --> 00:13:56.009 if it's good for you or now, but you know, but some of 209 00:13:56.049 --> 00:13:58.730 them might not be so good for you. Well, it's this, you 210 00:13:58.850 --> 00:14:05.490 know. For me it's a good whiskey. You know how often sipping on 211 00:14:05.570 --> 00:14:07.210 a whiskey? Two, three days a week. When I'm not going right 212 00:14:09.169 --> 00:14:11.240 there you go. So two, three days a week. Okay, good. 213 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.919 So how about we do this and I'll say, I'll say to them 214 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:20.360 we're not drinking any whisky at all or any alcohol, because we could subthing, 215 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.269 do whiskey for something else, right, helps do gambling for you know, 216 00:14:24.549 --> 00:14:28.830 for some other for drugs or for alcohol or for whatever. You know, 217 00:14:28.909 --> 00:14:31.950 it's just it's just a vice. Right. So we're not drinking any 218 00:14:31.029 --> 00:14:37.070 alcohol at all. Until you reach wherever, wherever you want that you're stuck 219 00:14:37.149 --> 00:14:41.019 in a hundred and fifty visits. So until you get to two hundre undrew 220 00:14:41.019 --> 00:14:45.980 there's no alcohol one. It's your body at all at all. Yeah, 221 00:14:46.740 --> 00:14:48.740 your educated brain in a week. As I say, well, he didn't 222 00:14:48.740 --> 00:14:54.009 say on weekends, so I'll go to drink on weekends. Right, that 223 00:14:54.049 --> 00:14:56.809 kind of it's like, you know, or he didn't say this, or 224 00:14:56.929 --> 00:15:00.529 well, I mean, if this isn't really alcohol, wine isn't considered alcohol, 225 00:15:00.610 --> 00:15:03.009 you know, are the sprit sir, whatever, I don't drink alcohol, 226 00:15:03.049 --> 00:15:05.289 but whatever it is, you know, that's what happens, right, 227 00:15:05.610 --> 00:15:09.919 and it's our educated that plays games with us all the time, that stops 228 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.519 us, that says, you know, you're not as good as you think 229 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.519 you are, or money doesn't grow on trees. Or are you can't do 230 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.669 this, you're not good enough, you don't deserve this. All these programs 231 00:15:20.669 --> 00:15:24.629 that were sent to us by the best teachers in the world. You know, 232 00:15:24.669 --> 00:15:28.110 our parents are teachers from early school years. You know let's and you 233 00:15:28.149 --> 00:15:31.950 know those are all just that's just all Kaka. Right. But are educated. 234 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:35.350 is taken that in. Well, the minute you say I'm going to 235 00:15:35.429 --> 00:15:39.740 stop, right, and then you're educated. We got to get to know 236 00:15:39.740 --> 00:15:43.740 this educated mind, because this is what screws us up all the time. 237 00:15:43.299 --> 00:15:46.179 Right, it's what does so get to know what. Next thing you know, 238 00:15:46.740 --> 00:15:50.289 you know you're not drinking alcohol for whatever period of time, and that 239 00:15:50.370 --> 00:15:52.289 educated you're not listening to it. Or and said go drinking. Go okay, 240 00:15:52.370 --> 00:15:56.929 but I'm not going to, and then I'll just never give into it. 241 00:15:56.049 --> 00:15:58.769 Right. And the next thing you know, it's going to say, 242 00:15:58.889 --> 00:16:02.090 fine, you want to see two hundred visits a week. We'll see two 243 00:16:02.090 --> 00:16:04.600 hundred visits a week and you'll go to two hundred, right, and two 244 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:10.960 hundred. You get what? You're whiskey. Right as you drink. You're 245 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.039 whiskey. What you're educated saying told you. So see how hold you, 246 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:19.110 we can. All we're doing is taming the beast. HMM, it's really 247 00:16:19.110 --> 00:16:22.350 all we're doing. And that beast inside. We all have this beast, 248 00:16:22.429 --> 00:16:26.230 that beast inside of us, just you know, it wants to roar, 249 00:16:26.350 --> 00:16:27.909 when it wants to wear but when you go to the circus and you see 250 00:16:27.909 --> 00:16:34.139 that Lion Tamer like this, right, he knows exactly what those lions are 251 00:16:34.179 --> 00:16:38.860 going to do and they're roaring, but he knows exactly because he came them 252 00:16:38.980 --> 00:16:41.779 right, he understands them. It's the same thing with this. So for 253 00:16:41.899 --> 00:16:45.620 those people who are at that spot, you know, Tame your beast. 254 00:16:47.019 --> 00:16:49.850 You do that by finding a discipline or taking away something out of your life. 255 00:16:49.850 --> 00:16:52.490 That's a vice that you love to do. You tend to do a 256 00:16:52.570 --> 00:16:56.370 lot of and don't ask yourself, ask your partner or your best friend or 257 00:16:56.370 --> 00:16:59.970 whoever they're. Ah, man, you know how much ice cream you eat? 258 00:16:59.970 --> 00:17:02.320 You have any? That much? I every night? You're really nice. 259 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:03.720 Creak, could take it away, you know, Ben and Jer at, 260 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.519 whatever it is. And when we do that, we all of a 261 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.759 sudden go back and we find our true power, which is on the inside. 262 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:15.750 And then when you're in that power spot, then make your decisions. 263 00:17:17.309 --> 00:17:21.710 Never make your decisions from a reaction. You know, you know, reactively. 264 00:17:21.910 --> 00:17:25.990 Make it proactively. That's right. Will tell them that's great advice. 265 00:17:26.029 --> 00:17:33.220 I love that. So the second group is this associate who is in a 266 00:17:33.299 --> 00:17:37.259 practice, but they had this spirit within them. They can feel it girdling 267 00:17:37.180 --> 00:17:41.660 and they just really feel that call to open their own practice and really kind 268 00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:45.410 of go out on their own. Give us some practical advice and steps you 269 00:17:45.450 --> 00:17:49.450 might give somebody in that spot. Okay. So the very first thing I 270 00:17:49.529 --> 00:17:55.089 would tell that that that young doctor or older doctor, doesn't matter, is 271 00:17:55.650 --> 00:17:59.640 ethics. So you know a lot of times with that doctor will do, 272 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.160 and that I've witnessed, and no, I won't say it's you who who's 273 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:08.039 listening right now, but they will feel they can't tell their doctor that they're 274 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.839 working on you know that they have to do. So they go and do 275 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.150 everything kind of behind the counter, you know, behind the back right, 276 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:18.990 and they're looking this set up or doing this or talking to everybody else. 277 00:18:18.109 --> 00:18:22.470 And the truth is is that the minute you're you just, you know, 278 00:18:22.549 --> 00:18:26.150 you're out of ethics around that. You know or you're holding that we're holding 279 00:18:26.269 --> 00:18:30.420 this, this story and this lie and all. I can't tell them none. 280 00:18:30.579 --> 00:18:33.980 To Talk to whoever you're working for and share with them, because you're 281 00:18:33.980 --> 00:18:37.819 going to leave either way and they know that. Now, if your concern 282 00:18:38.059 --> 00:18:41.930 is they're going to fire me right away, you might not be in the 283 00:18:41.009 --> 00:18:45.490 right place. You know it's like it's and that that could be what's driving 284 00:18:45.529 --> 00:18:51.730 you down also holding you back right, but that's that's just the story in 285 00:18:51.809 --> 00:18:53.890 your head. I mean live from your truth, and your truth is been 286 00:18:53.930 --> 00:18:56.640 able to say, Hey, I'm really thinking of moving on, but I 287 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:02.400 don't want to move on in any kind of way that can hamper this business. 288 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.039 So I want to move on so that this business is doing better than 289 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:08.960 it is right now. That's why I want to do and I want to 290 00:19:10.029 --> 00:19:12.150 contribute to that. So you know this is what I want, and then 291 00:19:12.190 --> 00:19:15.589 you work it out right and say, Let'sen, I'm going to stay here 292 00:19:15.990 --> 00:19:18.670 and I'm going to train a person, I'm going to make sure that they're 293 00:19:18.670 --> 00:19:21.630 right, I'm going to do all the stuff and you know. So now 294 00:19:21.710 --> 00:19:23.500 when you leave, and I've always taught my children this, you know, 295 00:19:23.660 --> 00:19:26.180 Mary and I always taught our kids this and we always told, you know, 296 00:19:26.380 --> 00:19:30.660 people that we coach was that the way you leave a job is how 297 00:19:30.779 --> 00:19:34.299 you go into the next job. So if you leave a job, you 298 00:19:34.380 --> 00:19:40.009 know in a real crappy way, that's same crappy energy is going to take 299 00:19:40.049 --> 00:19:42.410 you into the next space, whether it's your own business or not. And 300 00:19:42.569 --> 00:19:45.250 guess what, you don't want to start a business with that kind of energy, 301 00:19:45.369 --> 00:19:51.609 that energetic, you know, negativity and and deceitful and all that stuff. 302 00:19:51.730 --> 00:19:52.880 You know, you want to start a clean you want to start a 303 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:57.400 powerful and tend to one. If you're working for the right person, they're 304 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.640 going to say, what can I do to help you? I'm going to 305 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.519 help you. So let me help you, you know, and now you've 306 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.750 got someone on your side and now you've got allies and you've done that, 307 00:20:07.029 --> 00:20:11.470 you know, every year for about, I don't know, twenty five years 308 00:20:11.509 --> 00:20:15.549 maybe make could be give or take some years. We always brought on associate 309 00:20:15.710 --> 00:20:18.869 doctors for one year, just one year, and then they had to go 310 00:20:18.990 --> 00:20:22.619 and start a practice, right. So we knew they they and they have 311 00:20:22.740 --> 00:20:25.420 to replace themselves. They do. They only had a year, so they 312 00:20:25.420 --> 00:20:27.900 would learn a tremendous amount, lad but it was so beautiful because we helped 313 00:20:27.980 --> 00:20:30.220 them, we were always there for him. To this day, some of 314 00:20:30.259 --> 00:20:34.769 our best friends are those doctors. Right, it's just what it is. 315 00:20:34.809 --> 00:20:37.289 So so that's number one. You know, make sure if you're going to 316 00:20:37.410 --> 00:20:41.650 leave, you're going to do it ethically and you're going to feel good about 317 00:20:41.650 --> 00:20:44.809 it, right, and it's step into that to who you are, that 318 00:20:44.970 --> 00:20:48.410 power. Spot number two is find your super power. Yeah, you know 319 00:20:48.490 --> 00:20:52.400 you've got a superpower. You might have a few super powers. That's what 320 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.559 you want to lean on. And then whatever is it your super power? 321 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:57.920 You know, you might want to find someone else to do that. So 322 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:03.789 part of what your superpower might not be, let's just say it's not marketing, 323 00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:07.549 all right, or social media whatever. Find someone who can do that 324 00:21:07.710 --> 00:21:11.589 for you. And everyone out there knows. You can go to five or 325 00:21:11.589 --> 00:21:15.390 you can find people all over the world you know doing this stuff. But 326 00:21:15.710 --> 00:21:18.940 focus on your superpower, because that is what will get you to where you 327 00:21:19.059 --> 00:21:23.660 want to go right. So helpe. Those help oh very helpful, and 328 00:21:23.779 --> 00:21:29.299 I love that and I I personally know some of the docs that went through 329 00:21:29.380 --> 00:21:33.730 your one year program I think Nuer that was one of those money who not 330 00:21:33.890 --> 00:21:37.450 Hubbard Right solutely. After that the map became an associate doctor. So he 331 00:21:38.210 --> 00:21:41.609 came into it and then he, you know Matt, he's just a phenomenal 332 00:21:41.690 --> 00:21:45.009 guy. So he, he, he did, he started, you know, 333 00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:48.400 he built this practice in our office. You right, yeah, but, 334 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.079 yeah, we've had a lot the molendous I can go on and on, 335 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:55.400 just people. Oh yeah, now who's children are chiropractors, you know, 336 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:59.880 and and and, yeah, it's it was a great experience. However, 337 00:21:59.960 --> 00:22:04.309 how rewarding for you and married to leave that type of legacy. That's 338 00:22:04.349 --> 00:22:10.150 that's really beautiful. Doc. It was a third group. It's that doctor 339 00:22:10.309 --> 00:22:14.430 who is out in a zone or she's out of her own and they're getting 340 00:22:14.430 --> 00:22:18.539 kind of that point where they're doing what they can do and they feel like 341 00:22:18.619 --> 00:22:22.779 they want to go to the next level and scale their business and really grow 342 00:22:22.819 --> 00:22:26.140 a team. So speak some truth into that, because I know you've done 343 00:22:26.180 --> 00:22:29.579 that and I know you've studied doctors who've done that. Yeah, yeah, 344 00:22:29.700 --> 00:22:33.210 absolutely. You know, number one is, you know, bring on associate 345 00:22:33.329 --> 00:22:37.369 doctors. I mean, you know, but set the program up so it's 346 00:22:37.410 --> 00:22:41.490 a win win. A lot of associate doctor programs aren't set up to win. 347 00:22:41.609 --> 00:22:45.640 And if you really want to have someone to have someone stay with you. 348 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:51.559 Then you've got to make it that you know that it's worth it for 349 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.160 them to stay with you, not just financially. Financial is one thing, 350 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.480 and it needs to be worth it financially for the for the the associate, 351 00:22:57.589 --> 00:23:02.589 but also you know what their hours are and what their time off is, 352 00:23:02.789 --> 00:23:04.349 and you know, do it like it's your kid, you know, and 353 00:23:04.430 --> 00:23:07.470 if you did it just like you would do for your child, you know 354 00:23:07.589 --> 00:23:11.470 you are going to have a win win situation and people are going to want 355 00:23:11.509 --> 00:23:15.460 to stay with you. The idea isn't just a scale up and bring associates 356 00:23:15.500 --> 00:23:18.259 on, because you know what, you can go through associates and by the 357 00:23:18.299 --> 00:23:19.380 time you go through your tempt associate it, you're gonna be like, I 358 00:23:19.420 --> 00:23:22.900 don't want to do this anymore. Is there's too much work. I'd rather 359 00:23:22.940 --> 00:23:29.049 scale down and just keep it simple, right and and that's also always an 360 00:23:29.089 --> 00:23:33.490 option to do. But if you scale up in the right way, where 361 00:23:33.529 --> 00:23:38.170 you're bringing the right people in and you give them an opportunity to be able 362 00:23:38.170 --> 00:23:41.880 to really shine and develop and you put your heart and soul onto it, 363 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.400 you know that person is going to stay with you and you might even have 364 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.319 a system where you I know a lot of people who are doing a system 365 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.480 where they go and they start another practice and they put that person in the 366 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:55.359 practice and let them buy out the practice over the course of three or four 367 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:56.710 years, whatever it might be. In them you got another one, but 368 00:23:56.789 --> 00:24:00.509 meanwhile they trained, you know, they trained the person right and training the 369 00:24:00.549 --> 00:24:06.990 next person coming in and the scaling up is easy. It's really about how 370 00:24:07.190 --> 00:24:11.339 you manage and how you how you set up the you know, the win 371 00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:17.579 win situation. I will tell you that's at the college here amazing graduates. 372 00:24:17.819 --> 00:24:22.099 I mean amazing. I take them to India, we go to Tonga. 373 00:24:22.220 --> 00:24:25.289 Other doctors are there from around the world and they watch. They say to 374 00:24:25.369 --> 00:24:27.009 me, is that one of your students or is that a doc? Because 375 00:24:27.049 --> 00:24:30.730 we have doctors who come from all over the world, Europe and an Asia 376 00:24:30.809 --> 00:24:34.089 and Australia and New Zealand, all over the place right and they just can't 377 00:24:34.089 --> 00:24:37.089 even tell who's a doc and who's a student. You know who's a student 378 00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:42.160 during they're amazing, you know, but you've got to offer them something that's 379 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.559 going to be worth it. And just know this. You know today's newer 380 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.279 doctors. You know they're not they're looking for quality of life. They're not 381 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:52.150 looking they got to make money, they got student loans to pay off and 382 00:24:52.430 --> 00:24:56.230 you know. But if you want to keep them, you know they're looking 383 00:24:56.309 --> 00:24:59.990 for quality of life. So what's the vacation period? And and you know 384 00:25:00.309 --> 00:25:02.869 how they work and you know you work them five days a week. You 385 00:25:02.950 --> 00:25:04.509 know, eight hours a day, six days a week. They're going to 386 00:25:04.549 --> 00:25:07.859 stay with you long, you know, because they can go do it on 387 00:25:07.940 --> 00:25:10.900 their own, and believe me, they're capable of doing them on their own 388 00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:14.220 right. But you know, who needs the overhead expense when they could be 389 00:25:14.259 --> 00:25:17.539 doing it with you, not for you, with you, with you. 390 00:25:17.740 --> 00:25:21.059 I think that's a big lesson that we have to learn, and and especially 391 00:25:21.099 --> 00:25:23.890 in Chiropractic right and you know also, it's got to be the right time 392 00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:26.049 for you to bring someone on. You got to be able to afford the 393 00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:30.329 bring that personal if you have scaled that level yet, you know, you 394 00:25:30.450 --> 00:25:34.089 might be dreaming, thinking I'll have all these other people do it for me. 395 00:25:34.329 --> 00:25:37.839 It doesn't work like that and I've never actually, I have never seen 396 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:44.799 a be regenerative like that. I don't know. I'm rotten that around. 397 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:49.230 I'm getting them away from the words sustainable. Sustainable to me is just sustaining, 398 00:25:49.269 --> 00:25:52.549 staying at the same level. Right. Regenerative is like, you know, 399 00:25:52.829 --> 00:25:56.750 we're growing, you know we're moving up. So that's a key right. 400 00:25:56.990 --> 00:26:00.869 The other thing is is when you pick your associate doctor, if that's 401 00:26:00.869 --> 00:26:03.670 the route you're going to go, if you pick your associate doctor, you 402 00:26:03.710 --> 00:26:06.859 don't want necessarily pick the top person in the class, the number one person, 403 00:26:06.900 --> 00:26:08.700 unless they really want to work for you, you know, because those 404 00:26:08.700 --> 00:26:11.019 people are going to move off and go on their own. You know they 405 00:26:11.099 --> 00:26:15.700 go. Those are the first round draft choices. It's nothing wrong with being 406 00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:19.970 a second round draft choice. Tom Brady was a sixth round drop choice. 407 00:26:21.130 --> 00:26:25.130 It's from the best quarterback to probably ever play the game right. So nothing 408 00:26:25.170 --> 00:26:27.009 about it. But it's like, you know, cal people that you can 409 00:26:27.130 --> 00:26:30.690 work with and you can build up with and and make that happen. So 410 00:26:30.809 --> 00:26:33.519 don't always just look for the cream of the crop, because they might stick 411 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:38.039 with you for a year, not anything from you, but because their way 412 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:41.559 to go do their own thing. You know that. That's who they are 413 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.359 right. So, and they're not bad to have around, but you know, 414 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.549 if you want some of the booth your long term treat them like your 415 00:26:48.549 --> 00:26:52.430 child and, you know, take care of them like your child and I 416 00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:56.349 promise you, you know, if they don't have this grand ambition to go 417 00:26:56.470 --> 00:27:00.150 out and do their own thing, will be fine. There's so many little 418 00:27:00.190 --> 00:27:02.779 pearls in there. We could do a whole episode on that. But what 419 00:27:02.940 --> 00:27:07.259 you said to me is so profound and the thing that really is already sticking 420 00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:10.140 with me is treat them like your child. I mean that. That is 421 00:27:10.180 --> 00:27:14.259 a beautiful picture of how Chiropadic should be and how these relationship should be set 422 00:27:14.339 --> 00:27:18.289 up, with the right expectations, the right agreements in place so to win 423 00:27:18.369 --> 00:27:21.769 when I love that. By the way, keep doing what you're doing. 424 00:27:21.769 --> 00:27:25.369 It life less, because I'm getting ready to onboard my third associated from life 425 00:27:25.369 --> 00:27:30.279 lest right. These are amazing young doctors, amazing, they're fun and you're 426 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:33.480 sending I know Youth Brownie send a lot of people here, but it's been 427 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:36.519 kind of deal, you know, it's like you know, you keep sending 428 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.799 them and they're going to keep coming back and yeah, and it really is. 429 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.240 It's incredible, it's beautiful. I got another one come in your way. 430 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:48.670 This kid's going to be great. Okay, so I'm taking notes here, 431 00:27:48.710 --> 00:27:52.829 man, this is great. Okay, so you know, I know 432 00:27:52.910 --> 00:27:57.150 it breaks your heart and it breaks my heart when we see chiropractors leave the 433 00:27:57.230 --> 00:28:03.259 profession, you know, when we see chiropractors sell their dream practice for a 434 00:28:03.380 --> 00:28:08.900 discount. And I just I want you to encourage our our listeners with some 435 00:28:10.099 --> 00:28:14.369 optimism about you know about this. How can we avoid that? And then 436 00:28:14.490 --> 00:28:17.369 also, not to give you too much the thing about it once, but 437 00:28:17.809 --> 00:28:21.650 kind of paying us a picture, as a leader at a school, paying 438 00:28:21.730 --> 00:28:25.250 a ten your picture for me and give me some hope about Chiropractic, because 439 00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:27.519 I chiropractic works, man. We see it working you and I know it 440 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:32.319 works. And just give me a little glipse into what you see is a 441 00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:37.720 vibrant future for us. I'll never stop, you know, I'm never retiring. 442 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.069 I might retire, I will retire from this job in the presidency. 443 00:28:41.509 --> 00:28:45.630 You know at some point I will retire from this, but Chiropractic I can 444 00:28:45.710 --> 00:28:48.390 never get out of, you know, because Chiropractic is a way of life 445 00:28:48.430 --> 00:28:52.910 for me and it's done so much for me and it's given me so much, 446 00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:57.940 given me way more than I have ever given it right. And if 447 00:28:57.980 --> 00:29:00.700 you're out of exchange. You know, if you feel like you just like 448 00:29:00.859 --> 00:29:04.740 you know if things aren't working for you, usually because you're out of exchange. 449 00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:07.819 And if you're out of exchange, there's an old saying in a relationship, 450 00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:11.569 whether it's a relationship with your practice, our relationship with your spouse, 451 00:29:11.569 --> 00:29:17.369 or relationship with friends, relationship with your dog or cat, right in a 452 00:29:17.490 --> 00:29:23.880 relationship, and just I'll safe with myself and you right. I I need 453 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:30.640 to get more from you than what I give you and you need to get 454 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.559 more from me than what you give me. HMM, now, understand that 455 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.869 right. It's how we hold it. With my dog, when we had 456 00:29:38.910 --> 00:29:44.309 Niko, you know, she was a hundred and forty five pound bull massed, 457 00:29:44.309 --> 00:29:48.069 if you're I got so much more from her that I could ever give 458 00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:52.380 to her. Wow, and hopefully she got more from me than what she 459 00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:56.460 thought she was given me. That's a win win relationship. We just keep 460 00:29:56.500 --> 00:30:00.220 going up. The minute it's like I'm giving you way too much more than 461 00:30:00.220 --> 00:30:03.980 I'm getting back, I'm going to step out of that relationship. I'm going 462 00:30:03.980 --> 00:30:06.859 to feel like it's just a draining on me. Right. So when you 463 00:30:06.980 --> 00:30:10.450 feel that drainness, whatever it is, you know whatever word, or will 464 00:30:10.490 --> 00:30:12.890 go back to the first one we started, the stuckness. You know, 465 00:30:14.410 --> 00:30:15.890 it's just that you know you're out of exchange. You could be out of 466 00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:18.450 exchange with the universe, you could be out of exchange with life, you 467 00:30:18.529 --> 00:30:22.000 can be out of exchange with all of your friends, whatever it is. 468 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:23.720 You know, with your patient. Should be out of exchange right. So 469 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.640 you've got to see this. It's not about what you give me, it's 470 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:33.039 how I perceive what I'm getting right, and that's how I have to hold 471 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.069 it and I've got to see those nuggets and see the value that's there. 472 00:30:36.549 --> 00:30:41.549 That's why, when you give a three day old child, baby to anybody 473 00:30:42.710 --> 00:30:45.230 who loves shit, they're going to go, oh my God, they're just 474 00:30:45.309 --> 00:30:48.670 gonna melt to me. Watch my wife and my daughter's man, you had 475 00:30:48.750 --> 00:30:52.180 them. There's a baby. They're going to go right at it right, 476 00:30:52.299 --> 00:30:56.940 and it's like and they get so much more from holding that child. Well, 477 00:30:56.099 --> 00:30:59.579 can we do that with Chiropractic? Can we do that with what you 478 00:30:59.619 --> 00:31:02.619 do and and everything in Your Life? Right? And if it's not there, 479 00:31:02.619 --> 00:31:03.329 then get rid of it, you know, because this is not going 480 00:31:03.369 --> 00:31:08.130 to be supporting you and what you're doing so on that level. We're talking 481 00:31:08.170 --> 00:31:11.650 about, you know, the people who are kind of feeling like when you 482 00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:14.930 talk to Ronnie about the person gets the three hundred and fifty and they go 483 00:31:15.009 --> 00:31:18.759 it's not all there. There's a great book and it's called mastery. It 484 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.200 was written by a gentleman named George Leonard, and George Leonard was actually up 485 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.480 here in the bay area. He was all like a Wall Street kind of 486 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.960 guy, broker. used to drive in the San Francisco from Sacolino and his 487 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.710 beautiful car and go to work every day and just pound out, make a 488 00:31:33.829 --> 00:31:38.069 ton of money. But he wasn't fulfilled. One day's driving the San Francisco 489 00:31:38.109 --> 00:31:41.349 and he says, I'm not going to the office today. Let his car 490 00:31:41.470 --> 00:31:45.150 drive them wherever he wherever it wanted to. He just just let the cargo, 491 00:31:45.349 --> 00:31:48.339 you know, and it just kind of not hands free, you know, 492 00:31:48.819 --> 00:31:49.779 Tesla kind of thing, hey, but you know, you kind of 493 00:31:49.819 --> 00:31:53.420 just drove around until it just finally stopped and he looked up and there was 494 00:31:53.500 --> 00:31:57.460 an Aikido studio and he went up. Seriously this, he listened to his 495 00:31:57.539 --> 00:32:00.970 inner voice just let it kind of guide them. Went upstairs and met Anichito 496 00:32:01.049 --> 00:32:06.410 master. He start taking a Kido classes right, quit his job, you 497 00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:08.250 know, ended up, you know, becoming a black belt in Aikido and 498 00:32:08.809 --> 00:32:13.250 got over to the esselent institute. This was back in the early days, 499 00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:15.319 over and big Sir and, you know, where the inner game of tennis 500 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.440 and also and and he was just, you know, taking courses and teaching 501 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.160 things and he wrote a book called mastery, and bottom line is this and 502 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.720 mastery. Pick it up. It's a very easy book to read. You 503 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:30.750 reading about thirty minutes, but it talks about how we're constantly taught to chase 504 00:32:30.869 --> 00:32:34.950 the rabbit. And I'll give you an example. Go to high school and 505 00:32:35.150 --> 00:32:40.190 get great grades so you can go to a good runnie android college, right, 506 00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:44.859 and go to college and study hrt, so when you get out you 507 00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:47.900 can get a good job. And then, when you got a good job, 508 00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:52.940 get into a relationship so you can then get what a good life and 509 00:32:53.460 --> 00:32:57.539 like her, good husband, right, all right, good spouse will say. 510 00:32:57.779 --> 00:33:01.529 And then, and then, if you work really hard and make enough 511 00:33:01.609 --> 00:33:07.890 money, you'll be able to go buy your big beautiful boat house. Yeah, 512 00:33:07.930 --> 00:33:10.329 and then you had a Ford. was always like, what's next? 513 00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:15.000 And what's next? I'm chasing that rabbit and I never get to that satisfaction. 514 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:20.519 Yeah, and what George Leonard Teaches. When you read the book, 515 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:22.599 and no, I'm not going to I'm going to give you the punch line, 516 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:24.599 but you got to read it anyways. It's amazing that when you're on 517 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.910 the plateau, that's where life is lived. It's not about foot jumping up 518 00:33:30.950 --> 00:33:34.750 to that next level, you know, because everyone wants that next level once 519 00:33:34.869 --> 00:33:38.069 that job, wants that car, once that house, once that washing machine 520 00:33:38.109 --> 00:33:43.500 and draw it's not that, it's living here. And guess what, Poop 521 00:33:43.539 --> 00:33:46.460 you get rewarded and then you live again on the plateau. POOP, you 522 00:33:46.539 --> 00:33:52.619 get reward ordered live on the plateau. Life is on the plateau. Don't 523 00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:55.930 get suckered into thinking it's on the beeps going up, because even when you 524 00:33:55.970 --> 00:34:00.690 go up, you're always going to go down a little bit and plateau right 525 00:34:00.890 --> 00:34:02.049 and then go up. Sometimes you take a bunch of jumps up, but 526 00:34:02.089 --> 00:34:06.690 then you plateau and then they go off. I'm not fulfilled. Of course 527 00:34:06.730 --> 00:34:08.210 you're not fulfilled. Why are you going to be fulfilled from, you know, 528 00:34:08.409 --> 00:34:12.599 a car or from a house or from a you know, whatever it 529 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.559 is. That's not what's fulfilling. What's fulfilling is on the plateau right, 530 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.079 and that's where life is lived. So you can get that and be able 531 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.949 to see that and be present, you know, and take anything that happens, 532 00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:30.429 do you right and be able to to utilize that. I'm so in 533 00:34:30.989 --> 00:34:37.550 in admiration of my daughters, you know, because no matter what life throws 534 00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:39.780 at them, you know, good, bad and different, it doesn't matter. 535 00:34:40.340 --> 00:34:44.579 You know, they somehow, and believe me, they did not get 536 00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.460 this from me, I promise you, but you know, probably more from 537 00:34:46.460 --> 00:34:50.860 their mom but I believe they've kind of developed in who they are. They 538 00:34:51.019 --> 00:34:55.929 just make it be about their life right, that plateau of this is where 539 00:34:55.929 --> 00:35:01.369 it's lived. To be present right in the presentness right and it's just incredible. 540 00:35:01.409 --> 00:35:05.090 So, so that's what I would say. You know, it's not 541 00:35:05.170 --> 00:35:07.159 about, you know, chasing the rabbit, and you hear these people because 542 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.280 they are. If you're not happy at a hundred, you won't be happy 543 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.840 at one hundred and fifty. It's gonna happy one hundred and fifty. You 544 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.920 won't be happy at two to fifty, three and fifty. You're just chasing 545 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.559 half in this and numbers. It ain't in the numbers. It's not in 546 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.309 the dollars. You know, Ronnie, you and I've had all the cars 547 00:35:22.349 --> 00:35:24.110 we wanted and all the you know, the fancy stuff and all that. 548 00:35:24.190 --> 00:35:28.869 It's not bad. It's really isn't bad. You know, it does nothing 549 00:35:28.869 --> 00:35:30.630 to do. It's fun. Yeah, you know money. Oh, it's 550 00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:36.219 fun. I have a good affair. I have a good relationship with money, 551 00:35:36.420 --> 00:35:37.860 right. You know, I revelt the relationship because, you know what 552 00:35:37.900 --> 00:35:40.900 I was taught when I was younger. I'm from the wrong side of the 553 00:35:40.980 --> 00:35:45.980 tracks. Never have what they have. Money doesn't grow on tree. This 554 00:35:45.099 --> 00:35:47.579 was a program I got from my from what you know, one of my 555 00:35:47.699 --> 00:35:51.210 parents, right, and it was her, so my mom, and it 556 00:35:51.329 --> 00:35:53.010 was her stuff, not mine, but I took it in. I had 557 00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:55.130 to do a lot of work to get rid of that. But once again, 558 00:35:55.969 --> 00:35:58.769 you know, it ain't the love of money. You know that, 559 00:35:59.250 --> 00:36:01.730 that's for sure, because money's just a vehicle. Gives you more choices, 560 00:36:01.809 --> 00:36:07.320 but you could be just as happy serving no, that's beautiful and I want 561 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.480 to ask you. You made me think of this, but just just how 562 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:15.519 important, in your estimation, is it for the DC out there to stay 563 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.869 connected, whether it be with a coaching community or going to some of these 564 00:36:19.949 --> 00:36:24.190 more inspiring seminars like the wave and Kira Fest and cal Jam I, just 565 00:36:24.349 --> 00:36:28.110 for me and that just fills me up. You know, I'm already filled 566 00:36:28.150 --> 00:36:30.949 up. I just I think it overflows my heart, is what it does 567 00:36:30.070 --> 00:36:34.780 for me. But I don't encourage our listeners on, not like guys. 568 00:36:34.820 --> 00:36:37.579 Don't make time, guys and gals and make time for that stuff. Yeah, 569 00:36:37.860 --> 00:36:39.059 yeah, and you know they always go. I don't need to go 570 00:36:39.260 --> 00:36:44.219 and you don't need to go, and don't come to get pumped because if 571 00:36:44.260 --> 00:36:46.139 you can get pumped up in the higher up you go, the further you're 572 00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:50.090 going to fall back down when you were and when you fall you're going to 573 00:36:50.130 --> 00:36:52.809 go a little bit deeper down than where you are waiting now. You know. 574 00:36:52.250 --> 00:36:55.969 So. So that's not why you go. You know, why you 575 00:36:57.130 --> 00:37:00.369 go is to be with people of like mind. Why you go is to 576 00:37:00.449 --> 00:37:02.559 pick up. Anytime I went to a program went to a weekend semhe or 577 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.960 whatever, I would go and I would look for five diamonds. That's it, 578 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:08.480 five, because what am I going to do with a hundred diamonds? 579 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:13.000 Go back to my office Monday and change everything? It's can do it five 580 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.309 diamonds. And after I got my five, I just sat there and I 581 00:37:15.429 --> 00:37:19.349 just enjoyed everything coming in. You know, that kind of thing. And 582 00:37:19.550 --> 00:37:22.550 and and I would sit there anyways and enjoy it. And a diamond way 583 00:37:22.550 --> 00:37:23.789 hit me and pull my right down at something. I have ten people, 584 00:37:23.869 --> 00:37:27.510 but I ten things on there, but I would take it down the five 585 00:37:27.550 --> 00:37:30.900 right and that's it and just beat content. Right. But you go to 586 00:37:30.980 --> 00:37:35.059 be around people that think like you. You go to be around people that 587 00:37:35.460 --> 00:37:37.699 that you love to hang out with, you know, and and it's the 588 00:37:37.739 --> 00:37:44.650 kind of thing where, you know, we just need being connected. Is 589 00:37:44.769 --> 00:37:47.449 being connected this day and age. They're on facebook, you know, doing 590 00:37:47.489 --> 00:37:51.849 all their stuff on their phone, they're on twitter, they're on Instagram, 591 00:37:51.929 --> 00:37:55.050 they're listening to podcast which are wonderful. Don't stop doing that stuff, right, 592 00:37:55.610 --> 00:38:00.920 but it's all it's just a it's all alone. Yeah, you know, 593 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.480 and that connection is who were about. You know, Chiropractic is really 594 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:10.760 about the connection of the perfection within. And if we're not connected with others 595 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.070 who think like us and we're not connected, I'm in my gosh. Come 596 00:38:15.150 --> 00:38:17.710 to the school and get around these students and and they will if they don't 597 00:38:17.710 --> 00:38:21.989 juice you up and then you don't feel different when you walk out. You 598 00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:24.510 know, we need to check in someplace, because it's like, you know, 599 00:38:25.030 --> 00:38:30.780 they've got such a magnetic energy around Chiropractic, around life, you know, 600 00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:34.500 around everything that they're doing. And if you're really feeling disconnected, come 601 00:38:34.539 --> 00:38:37.139 on a service trip with us because, man, I put you in a 602 00:38:37.460 --> 00:38:39.780 I'll put you in a on a table and have you be serving all day. 603 00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:43.170 I guarantee you by the end of the day you're not thinking about your 604 00:38:43.210 --> 00:38:45.849 disc you know, your reconnected, I promise you right. That's right. 605 00:38:46.329 --> 00:38:50.650 So I think it's important. You know, and and and you know, 606 00:38:50.769 --> 00:38:53.530 we don't make the time because our educated that beast says, AH, you 607 00:38:53.650 --> 00:38:58.039 don't need what you talk my there's a game on this weekend, you know, 608 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.360 or there's this, there, there's that, you know, and I'm 609 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:01.519 not saying to stay away from the Games. I love the Games. You 610 00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.239 know, I got a big game coming up this weekend with University of Michigan. 611 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.960 Go Blue, but it's it's you know, it's that everyday stuff. 612 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.230 You know. Yeah, I need this. Are Eating better, but I 613 00:39:12.309 --> 00:39:15.429 got Thanksgiving coming up. I'll wait till after thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah, 614 00:39:15.670 --> 00:39:16.949 oh, but new year's is coming up, so I got to wait till 615 00:39:16.989 --> 00:39:21.110 aft all. But then balance Tis they and it's always, always, always, 616 00:39:21.110 --> 00:39:23.500 always. You know, you're not living for now, baby, you 617 00:39:23.579 --> 00:39:28.099 know, get in the present, take care of yourself. You right, 618 00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:31.500 do everything that you need to do to be the best version of yourself so 619 00:39:31.619 --> 00:39:35.500 that you can go out and serve and be the best. Whether you're a 620 00:39:35.579 --> 00:39:37.969 CEA doesn't matter, whether you're a doc, it doesn't matter, so that 621 00:39:38.090 --> 00:39:40.969 you can be the best you can possibly do to contribute to your team, 622 00:39:42.809 --> 00:39:50.130 because every single personal walks in your door deserves your one thousand percent best and 623 00:39:50.250 --> 00:39:52.570 if you give it to them, by the end of the day you will 624 00:39:52.610 --> 00:39:58.400 be feeling phenomenal, not used, beat up, drained, phenomenal, becauuse. 625 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.440 It's what we have to offer. So at Ben Lasting about ten years 626 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.150 from now, here's what I see in ten years from now I see Chiropractors, 627 00:40:07.550 --> 00:40:09.469 you know, more chiropractors out on the street. Our numbers are going 628 00:40:09.630 --> 00:40:14.469 up in colleges right now, with amount of people coming in the chiropractic school. 629 00:40:14.909 --> 00:40:17.630 It always swings at ebbs and flows. During recessions we get more students. 630 00:40:17.670 --> 00:40:21.860 That come in during pandemics. I guess it's the same thing. You 631 00:40:21.940 --> 00:40:24.739 know, more students going because people get to reevaluate and reassess their lives and 632 00:40:24.820 --> 00:40:29.739 say, I'm not happy, you know, working on this nine to five 633 00:40:29.739 --> 00:40:31.500 job, I want to do something different, I want to be a Chiropractor, 634 00:40:31.539 --> 00:40:35.769 I want they get led to the healing or whatever it is right and 635 00:40:36.210 --> 00:40:39.929 what I see is this. I if if we as a profession, learn 636 00:40:40.090 --> 00:40:45.130 to take care of each other and learn to take care of ourselves and are 637 00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:50.039 able to embrace others and be able to bring them in and see our similarities 638 00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:52.719 and not our differences. You know, this is what we're talking about in 639 00:40:52.840 --> 00:41:00.000 society. Right and really understand and and cherish that same innate wisdom that's within 640 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.349 that person you're looking at and that same that's within you, right and really 641 00:41:05.429 --> 00:41:08.190 acknowledge that. You know, we can make this world a better place to 642 00:41:08.230 --> 00:41:13.630 be. And you know, I see chiropractors growing, I see the profession 643 00:41:13.750 --> 00:41:17.900 growing, I see that we will be able to create more health in this 644 00:41:19.059 --> 00:41:22.460 world, that will create more healing in this world, allow people to understand 645 00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:27.460 that they're more than than than a chemical from the outside or something else should 646 00:41:27.460 --> 00:41:30.059 be outside that within them they have the power to heal. And if we 647 00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:36.010 can teach them about that perfection of the connection within them, you know we 648 00:41:36.090 --> 00:41:39.570 are going to empower people to live lives from the inside out. Whether their 649 00:41:39.650 --> 00:41:44.449 chiropractors are not, it doesn't matter. That they will understand that the first 650 00:41:44.489 --> 00:41:46.800 place they need to go is within right. What all I need to do 651 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.119 here and I need to see my chiropractor, where they should be seeing you 652 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.440 anyways. But you know, I'm going to go see my chiropractor and make 653 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.800 sure that I'm connected right. And they start coming in like that, it's 654 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.360 a whole different ball game. But that's where I see it going around me 655 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:04.230 and I have the students these days. You know, they're they my kids 656 00:42:04.269 --> 00:42:08.150 came out of school whole different report of findings than what me and and and 657 00:42:08.349 --> 00:42:14.110 Mary we're doing. You know, both effective robbing. We're talking brain, 658 00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:19.780 they're talking nervous system, they're talking communication. They're talking in a much different 659 00:42:19.900 --> 00:42:22.739 tone and a much different fashion that people are understanding that. You know where 660 00:42:22.739 --> 00:42:25.820 I used to sit there and trying to drive subluxation home to them. Boom 661 00:42:25.860 --> 00:42:30.809 boom, boom, boom boom, a head posters behind me subluxation kills without 662 00:42:30.809 --> 00:42:34.250 you know, those old posters and all that stuff. My kids came in 663 00:42:34.329 --> 00:42:37.250 and said that's got to go, that's got to go. Will we? 664 00:42:37.969 --> 00:42:40.730 I've had that since the S. exactly, Dad, that's I have to 665 00:42:40.809 --> 00:42:44.210 go. But you know, we always attract those that are with us. 666 00:42:44.210 --> 00:42:46.760 But I what I see is I just see beauty because I won't allow myself 667 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.239 to see anything else, you know. And if we all see that, 668 00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.679 we all see that we can take care of each other and move forward together 669 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:59.230 and help each other and reach out and empower each other to go. You 670 00:42:59.269 --> 00:43:02.750 know, Chiropractic will, you know, continue to be the phenomenal profession that 671 00:43:02.869 --> 00:43:07.710 it is, but it will also or the phenomenal healing art that it is, 672 00:43:07.949 --> 00:43:12.030 but it'll also step into that professional that that it could be, you 673 00:43:12.110 --> 00:43:15.900 know, much much higher level and be harden ourselves or a hundred and twenty 674 00:43:15.940 --> 00:43:20.340 six years old. That's not it's not, it's not very old, you 675 00:43:20.420 --> 00:43:23.059 know, but but you know, we need to step into that next level. 676 00:43:23.420 --> 00:43:25.820 You know, probably out of when I was in school, Forty years 677 00:43:25.820 --> 00:43:29.289 ago, forty three years ago, when I was in school, we were 678 00:43:29.409 --> 00:43:31.409 probably like, you know, seven year olds then. You know, you 679 00:43:31.530 --> 00:43:35.690 know, we went through our teams. Right now we're kind of moving into 680 00:43:35.769 --> 00:43:39.289 our our early S and and we're really going to start putting our route down 681 00:43:39.369 --> 00:43:43.519 and saying this is a direction I want to go, and it's all perfect. 682 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.840 So I wouldn't change the thing. Wouldn't want to see it change any 683 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.639 other way. It's exactly how it's supposed to be. We accept it, 684 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.719 we move with it and we do the best weekend. Well, I so 685 00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:59.309 appreciate you and I agree with you one hundred percent. I don't know about 686 00:43:59.309 --> 00:44:04.190 you, but you must really enjoy being around that young energy. I learned 687 00:44:04.309 --> 00:44:07.789 so much from these young chiropractors and I just want more docks on the call 688 00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:12.739 to take Dr Ron up in the offer. Go to the school, hold 689 00:44:12.780 --> 00:44:15.659 on these students, do the mission trip. In fact, I'm going to 690 00:44:15.739 --> 00:44:20.940 put a couple of links in the show notes one too, maybe a way 691 00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:22.659 in which they can come to the school, but also to contact you to 692 00:44:22.780 --> 00:44:27.050 get on one of these mission trips, because there's so much to learn from 693 00:44:27.090 --> 00:44:30.610 this next generation. Man. Love it. Call because we're here for you. 694 00:44:30.809 --> 00:44:34.570 I mean, when I came to the college it was used to old 695 00:44:34.730 --> 00:44:37.690 model. You know from that not a life less. But the old model 696 00:44:37.769 --> 00:44:39.280 in the world was, you know, okay, you graduate now, you 697 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.599 owe us right kind of deal and you don't know anything to anybody. You 698 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.880 know, we are here for you. We want to be a resource for 699 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.320 you. Right. So, if you need information on something, you need 700 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.989 x rays, read you need whatever you lat you something came up that you 701 00:44:54.030 --> 00:44:57.869 didn't know about. We have tremendous amount of resources, so that we want 702 00:44:57.909 --> 00:45:01.389 to make available to our alumni and our friends, you know, but to 703 00:45:01.429 --> 00:45:07.380 keep that win win situation also, you know, play with us, you 704 00:45:07.460 --> 00:45:10.820 know, send US students, join our president circle. You know, simple 705 00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:15.460 thing, your two adjustments, a less than two adjustments a week, you 706 00:45:15.539 --> 00:45:17.619 know, for a month. You know, a hundred dollars a month for 707 00:45:17.699 --> 00:45:22.250 an individual, and all that goes to help our students and and so as 708 00:45:22.329 --> 00:45:27.130 we start to symbiotically grow this. So but, like, like you said, 709 00:45:27.170 --> 00:45:29.570 around reach out to us, because we are here for you. No, 710 00:45:29.690 --> 00:45:30.889 no, I appreciate that and I think it's time, you know, 711 00:45:31.090 --> 00:45:34.929 for us to head back back to the schools. I mean, when I 712 00:45:34.969 --> 00:45:37.760 meet Chiropractors, always ask them how many students have you send to a principal 713 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.880 Chiropractic College? And I love. I didn't know much about the presence club, 714 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.320 but I jumped right into that because, like you said, that's nothing. 715 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.550 A hundred dollars for a chiropractors nothing. So I can't tell you how 716 00:45:50.550 --> 00:45:53.110 much we appreciate you having you at the helm there. I know you're not 717 00:45:53.110 --> 00:45:57.630 gonna be there forever. You know you got a Subaton at some point, 718 00:45:58.150 --> 00:46:01.590 but I just feel so encouraged having you there and I don't even think twice 719 00:46:01.590 --> 00:46:05.460 about sending somebody there. I just know what kind of guy you are. 720 00:46:05.900 --> 00:46:07.500 I know how well you're going to take care of them, and so for 721 00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:09.980 those you have a call, I want to applaud you as well, because 722 00:46:10.019 --> 00:46:15.420 you're taking time out for personal development and you'll never regret that. And I 723 00:46:15.460 --> 00:46:20.210 also want to thank Caire touch for their spirit in this. But they want 724 00:46:20.250 --> 00:46:23.969 to help this beloved profession of Chiropractic as much as anybody. And you know, 725 00:46:24.090 --> 00:46:28.090 not only is it a great software, but they have great leadership and 726 00:46:28.170 --> 00:46:31.010 they've got great people and I just love that they're doing this. We're going 727 00:46:31.010 --> 00:46:34.320 to keep rolling these out and Dr Ron, I want to have you on 728 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.920 again and we'll let you come up with your own topic, but you crush 729 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.760 this one. This was great. So, anyway, I want to thank 730 00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:45.400 you, guys, and remember dot take care of yourself, make sure you're 731 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.230 getting adjusted on a regular basis. Okay, and we need you to be 732 00:46:49.269 --> 00:46:51.909 at your best right now more than ever. So thanks again for joining us 733 00:46:51.949 --> 00:46:54.989 and thanks again Dr Ron. Really appreciated well my pleasure. Thank you,

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