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Welcome to this edition of catch up
with Kiro touch. I'm your host,
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Dr Ronnie Sims, and I'm super
excited today to have a repeat guest on
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our show, Dr Cathy from Georgia. Welcome Cathy. Thank you, Dr
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Ronnie. How are you doing?
Well? Doing well. I'm so glad
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to have you back on. I
really enjoyed our first conversation and I'm looking
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forward to seeing where this one goes
today. So let's go ahead and dive
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right in. And so again,
I appreciate you and I appreciate your willingness
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to come on and I know,
like me, you have a huge vision
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for Chiropractic and you love Chiropractic and
you love people and I know you're always
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building your teams and you're you're just
an amazing advocate for the profession. I've
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heard you speak on big stages and
you're super inspiring and you really Um I
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think, raised the consciousness of what
we should be doing in Chiropractic. So
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I just appreciate you as a person
and let's do rock and roll on this.
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So first question for your experienced opinion. How important is the woman chiropractor
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toward this amazing profession? Chiropractic.
If you looked at our future, how
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do you see women in that?
That's such a great question. It's a
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great way to start off because if
you look at our profession historically, most
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people think of our profession as a
very male dominated profession. But go back
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to the early days, the first
Chiropractic textbook was written by a woman,
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right, and people seem to forget
that, but minorth Paxson wrote the first
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Chiropractic textbook and then you had maybel
very involved and in my experience you had
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Dr Nell very involved. So we
always had a lot of women that were
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influential, but not necessarily in positions
of leadership. And to the women's credit,
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I think that the doors just were
not open for many years. You
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know, for most women, myself
included, you had to show up and
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show up and show up, and
every time you showed up there was never
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an opportunity. And then you show
up again and there's still not an opportunity,
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and most women just kind of got
to the point where they were fresh
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straight and they've been there for way
too many opportunities that they got passed over
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four but now what we're seeing is
in the last ten to fifteen years,
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we're seeing more and more opportunities for
women and more and more organizations, universities,
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State Association, starting to realize that
we need to have a better representation
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of who our profession actually is,
as well as who we desire to serve.
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I mean, look at any school. The schools are fifty and fifty
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two percent female at this point.
So we have to start seeing more women
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in leadership positions and letting our profession
demonstrate more examples of success so that our
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future students, on our current students, have something to aspire to and someone
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to look toward as their mentor and
as a leader, as a coach.
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That's awesome. Now I'm so glad
that you're stepping up into leadership yourself,
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and I know we'll talk about that
in a little bit later as to what
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you're doing with that. But no, I think you're spot on there and
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and it's time right, it's it's
our culture is right for this right.
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Absolutely. Think about I mean women. Women are the nurturers, where the
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caregivers. We typically are the decision
makers when it comes to financial decisions in
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the household. So you know,
women hold the pocket book, they hold
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the purse strings, whatever the terminology
you want to call it. We are
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responsible for the safety, the health, the well being of our families and
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oftentimes women are the providers. You
know, in my own situation I am
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the sole provider for my family and
have been for many, many years.
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So when you look at the position
that women have to step into, juggling
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multiple hats, it only makes sense
that when they step into Chiropractic as the
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doctor, as the office manager,
as the associate, as the team leader,
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as the CEO of their practice,
they're used to juggling multiple hats.
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They're used to not having someone else
who takes care of all the smaller tasks.
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So they're very good at micromanaging,
they're very good at multitasking, they're
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very good at shifting gears and making
sure that everything gets done. So why
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wouldn't we want women in those leadership
positions, because they already know how to
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juggle multiple opportunities and multiple tasks.
Oh No, that's so true, that's
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so spot on. The woman is
the key in the household today as far
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as um the kid's health and their
health, and they make all these critical
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decisions and they should be in these
leadership positions at our schools, at our
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associations and even locally. And so
for me I've really it's not just hearing
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about this, I've lived this out
for thirteen years because my number one right
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hand associate is the amazing Dr Krista, and you know, I just can't
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imagine my life without her. She
she can tell me the plain and simple
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truth when I need to hear it. She's very direct with me and she
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is an amazing caregiver and she's an
amazing leader in our community. And I
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think about the number of families that
whose lives have been changed because of Dr
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Krista. These are individuals I never
would have met, you know, just
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because she's Um so attractional and her
personality and and she's very involved in a
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lot of different avenues that I never
would have been invited into. And for
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me it's been an absolute game changer
in my life, and I know exactly
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I mean. For me, especially
the mid fifties guy who's set in his
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way, is kind of a hard
headed new client. I refer them immediately
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to her because they will do whatever
she says. They'll look at me and
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they all want do anything I tell
them to do. But anyway, in
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your own experience with this, and
I know you've always liked me, have
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been building teams and whatnot. Um, you know how important are our teams.
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You know for me it's it balances
me out so well. But kind
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of speak into that a little bit. And where do you see the profession
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going as it relates to building these
dynamic teams? I think the best future
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for our profession would be to see
multiple doctors in an office together, and
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whether that's as like an owner associate
model or whether that's as a team model.
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If we're going to start really seeing
of these female students go into the
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profession and stay in the profession,
then we have to provide opportunities or create
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opportunities where they can be successful.
And listen, let's face it, we
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have to be able to define our
own level of success, because just because
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one person wants to see a thousand
people a minute, right doesn't mean that
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everybody wants to do that. And
some people don't define success as seeing a
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gazillion patients. Some people define success
as being able to do all the things
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that they want to do with their
life as far as their family or as
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far as raising children, or as
far as giving back to the profession or
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being able to speak and teach and
lead, whether in the profession or outside
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of the profession, bringing more people
to an understanding of a greater level of
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health. So everybody's definition of success
is slightly different. But when you look
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at most women, society has placed
a lot of demands on us. If
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a woman is going to have children, guests, who ends up taking care
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of the children? More often than
not it's usually the woman, right and
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so there's so many more demands put
on women that when we could create practices
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that allow several chiropractice to come together, where one can have a maternity leave
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or another one can take time off
to go to their kids play or to
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be at a graduation or to go
participate in a school event where they're donating
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their time or to go out and
speak to the profession or to go out
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and speak to different organizations in their
community, when we have an opportunity for
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people to come together and run a
practice together, now we're creating that different
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definition of what a successful practice looks
like. It doesn't necessarily mean eight hours
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a day, five days a week, twelve hours a day, four days
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a week. It could mean three
hours a day. It could mean an
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hour in the morning and four hours
in the afternoon, with time to get
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the kids off the bus or time
to go to the gym or time to
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go do a lunch and learn in
the community. We can create a new
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version of success and it can be
defined by each individual chiropractor. So whether
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you're putting men into the office or
you're putting women into the office, being
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able to have that flexibility so that
you can travel, you can take time
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off, you're not chained to the
adjusting table, you're able to have different
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providers that can give care to the
patients while you're out doing something else that
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makes your heart happy. That's a
greater level of success and I think that
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would open the door from where people
staying in Chiropractic versus getting burned out and
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thing, you know what, I
have to take time off to go address
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other family concerns or other life concerns
and then never coming back into practice.
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So let's let's hopefully see some better
opportunities in the future of chiropractic where it
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is more flexible and it is more
conducive to that multitasking person that has to
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run a lot of different things in
their life. Wow, that's a great
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way of looking at it and I
think Um for me, and again I
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think about my own situation and you
made me think of how I set my
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relationship up with Dr Krista. In
the beginning was completely upside down because I
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just really didn't know. But as
we began to see her life unfold,
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where she became a single parent and
her demands increased, Um, you know,
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I used to think, oh,
an associate should just be on a
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percentage and they should have to go
out and beat the pavement. And and
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here's a person who's wired as an
empathetic caregiver. She could be a good
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business builder, but she doesn't have
the bandwidth for that. So we flipped
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that long ago and put her on
a more of a higher salary with benefits.
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I wanted to take all the stress
away from her because I knew how
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amazing she was as an empathetic caregiver
and she's a great speaker and she's great
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at screen. I just didn't want
to put that on her plate because I
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wanted to keep her life in alignment, and so I began to take care
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of more for her and began to
funnel new patients to her and I became,
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you know, did more of the
marketing and more business building and let
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her just be an amazing caregiver.
And if I didn't adapt and pivot on
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that, I would have our relationship
would have blown up. And so I
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think for me, from where I'm
sitting now, I think what you said
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is so true. I don't think
a lot of our chiropractors out there that
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have their own practice, that are
thinking about hiring an associate, are thinking
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through all of this the way that
you and I would. Who is it
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I'm looking for and what are my
expectations of them? Um, you know,
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and am I going to generate new
patients for them? Are they going
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to be required to go out and
do it on their own? And I
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think we don't pay them enough out
of school. I feel like we need
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to give them, you know,
some really good salaries so they have some
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a safety net. I mean student
loans now are crazy right, and and
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just the cost of living. So
maybe speak further into that as you look
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at giving some advice to that doctor
out there, and maybe the lead doctor
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is is a woman who has a
vibrant practice that wants to bring some other
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practitioners on our team. What should
they consider? Well, I think that
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a lot out of the students,
and understand that I've been teaching at Life
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University for the last almost fourteen years, I think that a lot of students
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have a misconception about what they're worth
is when they graduate, when they have
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no experience. Most of them won't
have a license for at least ten to
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twelve weeks Um and maybe most of
them have never worked in a job before.
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So they just assume that because they
have a degree they're entitled to a
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huge paycheck and there has to be
an exchange right. Otherwise they are just
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a liability to the practice. They're
not an asset. Understanding what people's skills
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are, understanding what their personality types
are, makes it a lot easier to
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decide. Is this an associate with
a paid salary, is this an independent
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contractor, or is this someone in
the middle? And I think the future
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is that somewhere in the middle,
where there's a base pay plus a percentage
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or plus an incentive or plus a
bonus or salary, you know, in
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addition to their salary, because most
owners have gotten burned by the salary model.
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Let's face it, you pay somebody
a salary they don't produce, you
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keep paying them, you keep paying
them. It's coming out of your portion
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of the Pie and eventually they start
to bring patients in and they want more
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money and the owner is sitting there
going, but I just paid you a
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salary for the last six months and
you didn't produce and now you want more
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money. It's hard for the owner. And then the new Grad is sitting
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there thinking, well, you know, I can make more money working at
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Burger King. Not Really, because
if you're willing to do the work that
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it takes to be successful, there's
no limit to how much you can earn,
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and there's a very big difference between
earn and being paid. So I
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think that that somewhere in between the
straight salary and the straight commission. There's
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that base plus and some people will
fit into that model. Other people will
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fit into that salaried employee and that's
where they will do their best work and
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they will absolutely excel in that position. And then you have some people who
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will absolutely excel when there are no
restrictions on them whatsoever. Let me earn
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as much as I possibly can earn. Just turn me loose. So we
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have to be honest with ourselves.
Where is my practice and what would fit
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best in my practice? And then
our docs that are looking for these positions
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need to be honest with themselves.
What are my skills, what's my personality
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type and what would best serve me
and make me able to serve at my
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highest capacity. So when we're when
we're truly honest with ourselves with what is
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it that I want and what do
I expect from somebody if I step into
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this position, then we have a
better opportunity, because you might have some
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of your associates that are on straight
salary and others that are on a base
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plus, and it just depends on
how they work and what motivates them.
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Listen, in Chiropractic we always talk
about serving our way through and being in
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a life of service. That means
different things to every person right and if
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we're going to serve at our highest, best capacity, what does that mean
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and how do we, as individuals, want to be rewarded for that level
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of service? Some just want to
pat on the back, some want the
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accolades, some want verbal affirmation,
some want finances and some want gifts.
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So when we understand how our associates
or prospective associates work and what they're basically
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like, their love languages are,
then we can understand how can I make
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them feel fulfilled, appreciated and,
Um, successful in this next endeavor.
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That's a great answer. You're right
on. I'll tell you, Um,
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if we only could have more business
training near the end of school or even
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once you're out of school, there
needs to be a chiropractic business university and
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I think what you're saying is spot
on. And I personally use the base
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plus model. And to your point, if I don't do some pretty exhaustive
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planning and and trying to figure out
what that Avatar looks like, what personnel
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trade should they be? M Are
they high patients, low patients, extra
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version, all those things we look
at and I think too often in Chiropractic
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we see practitioners plugging a square peg
into a round hole and then even going
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a step further putting them on the
wrong comp plan, like you said.
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So for me the base plus works
great for caregivers, especially in that first
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year they had that Nice base as
their building and as they're growing or how
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we're as we're helping them build and
then, like I tell my associates,
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I don't want you rely on on
your base past year one. You'RE gonna
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be so high into revenue percentage,
profit sharing, things like that. And
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you know, other things is like
malpractice insurance and continuing education workshops and healthcare,
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and these are all things I provide
for my associates because I don't want
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them to worry about that. I
want them to be unfettered so they can
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live their purpose out in our practice. So now, I appreciate your answer
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and I love that you're still in
the trenches at school. I think that's
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a great place for you right now. Now, can you speak specifically to
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the woman chiropractor and what are some
things that she could do if she's on
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her own? We might be speaking
to that audience right now. They're on
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their own and maybe they're struggling with
process procedure or perhaps here it's not attracting
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enough new patients. What are some
little just little nuggets you could give them
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as far as attracting more new patients, you know, with some women's specific
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stuff. So let me say this. Most and this is gonna sound very
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stereotypical and I apologize, but but
let me get it out and it will
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make sense. Most men played team
sports. Most women played individual sports,
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meaning women were gymnasts, they may
have been a cheerleader, they might have
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been a dancer, but they weren't
on a football team where it was a
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team mentality. So most women have
learned at this point, if they've made
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it through school, they are driven, they are the driver, they're a
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type, a right and it's it
all relies on them. They've never learned
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to have a team back them up, because they probably didn't have one of
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those, and so they probably also
didn't learn to have good coaches. And
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a lot of men in our profession
are. They're very open to being coached
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by a man. There's some women
who are open to being coached and unfortunately,
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not not to knock the men,
but unfortunately there hadn't been enough women
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stepping up into that position. So
a lot of times women would end up
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with a male coach who would basically
tell them, you know, you need
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to get up in an hour early
and do your hour of power, and
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women are like, but I just
finished nursing and putting the baby to bed
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and then all of a sudden I
had to get up in the middle of
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night and change the sheets and,
you know, and nurse the more and
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change a diaper and I just finally
got two hours of sleep and you want
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me to get up an hour early
to an hour of power? Are you
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crazy? But that was the only
message women were getting and I think right
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now we're so blessed to see in
our profession there's a lot more women coaches
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and a lot more women mentor is
out there and a lot of the male
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coaching programs are either incorporating women or
really starting to study and understand what a
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woman needs. And not to completely
divide us because we're chiropractors, period,
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end of story. But our needs
are different, our day to day activities
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are different, the demands placed on
us are different. Many people know that
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I've I've spoken on some of the
biggest stages for the last ten years and
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I speak with a lot of the
great men in our profession that I absolutely
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love in a door. But when
they would walk out the door to go
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to a seminar, sometimes they leave
the practice, go home, pick up
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a suitcase and walk out the door, kiss somebody good. Buy It that.
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I love your kids. See You
tomorrow or see in you know,
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two days. That's not the situation. As a woman like I had to
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finish the practice, negotiate every single
step of the way, have my nanny
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helping me, pack up my clothes, make sure that the laundry was done,
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the groceries were ordered, the food
was in the fridge, the kids
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would be taking care of for the
weekend and and I had to leave and
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then hurry up and get back to
make sure that the homeschool work was done
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in time for Monday morning. Very
different scenarios. So the demands placed on
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women and our profession are so drastically
different, not because of the profession,
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but because of the society that we've
all grown up in and what we,
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as young children, were exposed to
in the expectations put on us. So
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that leads us to a position where
there's so much different expectations that I think
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for women we need to be okay
with saying maybe I don't know how to
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do it all. I might have
been the top in my class and I
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had to push myself and I was
very driven in order to get to this
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level of success, but it's okay
to ask for help. Women are not
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typically very good at that because we've
learned how to just keep moving forward and
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don't let anybody see us cry and
don't let anybody see the vulnerable side,
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and we've learned how to go through
and do everything with no help. So
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for women, if you're listening,
if you've never asked for help before,
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it could be scary, it could
be intimidating, it could feel like,
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you know, if I let one
little crack show, the dam is just
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gonna burst button. I will assure
you when you ask for help from someone
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that's been there, gone through it, figured out how to get over those
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obstacles that you're facing right now,
you'll get over them faster, with a
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lot less struggle and a lot less
stress and a lot less money, energy
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time wasted, that you'll be able
to get to the next level of success
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so much faster. So ask for
help, reach out to other women that
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are doing it, reach out to
mentors or reach out to a coach or
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or, if you don't know who
to reach out to, reach out to
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me. I'll connect with someone.
Or if you want to work with me,
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that's fine, but reach out to
someone who can say look, it
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doesn't have to be this hard.
There's a way to do this easier,
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better, faster and get to your
desired level of success without all the pitfalls.
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And for women it's you know,
how do I manage the office?
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What do I do with my kids? Do I bring my babies into the
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office? Do I have my babies
with me in the office? Do I
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take off time when I'm going to
have children? Or what if your children
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are already grown? What do you
do now? What if you don't desire
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to have children? But what if
you want to have a family based practice?
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So all of those thoughts go into
how do I define my own level
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of success? And I think it's
essential that you reach out to other women,
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because women work in community. We
like to have these conversations. We
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do better when we're surrounded by like
minded individuals, even if it's somebody on
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the other end of the phone,
even if you're just face timing with someone
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or skyping or zooming or whatever you
want to do, but if you have
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someone else that you can reach out
to and say, AH, this isn't
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working, or wow, that was
really stressful, or wow, I just
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had my greatest success or my biggest
victory and I need someone to share it
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with. Women do better in community. So if you're already out there or
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you're getting into practice and you don't
have a community, it's time. It's
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time to get into one, because
that will help you define your own success
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and get there faster without all the
pitfalls. Wow, that's powerful. Are
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you a coach? I am.
I did take the last three years off
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because my children and I had to
go through some stuff that was challenging and
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I felt that it was an integrity
for me to be coaching any of my
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clients. So I released all my
clients and graciously they all understood, loved
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me, supported me, and I
just recently have gotten back and taking some
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of my clients back on, taking
some new clients back on and uh,
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and it's a great feeling because I
forgot how much I enjoy it and thankfully
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my clients has said to me,
you know, like you are that good,
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like we're glad we waited for you, because it was worth the wait.
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So I am starting to take some
clients back on, just a few,
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not too many, but I do
have a couple opportunities available. You.
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You your answer to that last question. It can it kind of exhausted
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me to think about what you described
right there. And and most guys like
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me. We can respect it,
but we when you don't live it,
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you don't really know what that feels
like. So how does I mean beyond
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what you just said, with coaching
and accountability groups and, you know,
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staying in community and being opening your
Heart Up to coaching, and maybe it's
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hard sometimes you get criticized too and
to be able to put your heart out
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there. But beyond that, you
know, you seem again like me,
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you're always working on keeping your life
in alignment, which sometimes it's overwhelming.
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You can't and that you were smart
enough to hit pause on some things,
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because I think you felt like,
I need to give my energy to my
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kids right now, or I need
to get my energy to the practice or
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you know, if you spread thisself
too thin, you know you're gonna be
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ineffective in every area. And so
how do what are some things you do
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personally in the recovery and repair space
of your life so that when you show
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up on Monday you're your normal energetic
Dr Cathy? So I have certain non
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negotiables and my non negotiables like my
day is ruined if I don't start with
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my nonnegotiables. So I start every
day and that's my children buzzing right now.
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I start every day with my own
personal time. So when I wake
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up, I stay in the bed, I do some stretches. That helped
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me, as a chiropractor, be
able to, you know, use my
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hands, my arms, my elbows, my wrist, my shoulders, because,
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let's face it, as women,
we're adjusting people twice our size all
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day long. I don't know many
men who adjust patients twice their size,
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because most of them I know are
five ten, six foot, a hundred
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and eighty two D to twenty.
As women, up five three D and
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twenty five pounds. Like half of
my patients are double my size and that's
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an ongoing daily issue that I have
to address, and that's the same for
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most women I talked to. So
I start every day, um, just
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in my own mind, just gratitude
and attitude, attitude, thankful expectation and
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stretching, and then cardio, before
anything hits my mouth, before food hits
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my mouth, some form of cardio, because I feel like I have to
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earn the day and I've got to
earn it by, you know, moving
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my body and making my body prepared
for that, and that puts me in
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the right frame of mind where like
I've already earned through the burn, I'm
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ready to be Um of service and
I'm ready to have gifts bestowed upon me.
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So for me, that's what charges
me up. If I missed that
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morning cardio and the whole rest of
the day is shot because I don't feel
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like I can catch up, even
when I go to the gym, I
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just don't feel like I can catch
up. So I might do my cardio,
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head to the gym lift. I
might, you know, hit the
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gym I have in the basement,
but I have to physically move in order
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to mentally be prepared to go serve
others. I've got to serve me before
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I can serve others, and that
goes from my children as well. I've
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got to serve me before I can
serve you, and then I'm a better
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servant to my children and I'm a
better servant to my community. And I
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think it's important for us to whatever
time frame you need to serve you in.
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It could be at the evening,
could be after everybody's gone to bed.
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For me, a lot of times
it's two o'clock in the morning because
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the east coast is quiet and then
I can deal with my west coast people.
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But you have to carve out some
kind of time to serve yourself,
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because we talk about getting lost in
service, but the reality is you can
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lose yourself in service and then who
are you? You have no idea anymore.
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So making sure that you are grounded
and who I am, what I
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do, why I do it,
so that I can do it better.
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That's huge. You have to understand
why you do this. You don't do
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what we do to make money.
That's a byproduct. Why do you do
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what you do? For me,
why am I a chiropractor? Because no
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parents should ever have to bury a
child, because babies aren't pin cushions right
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and I don't want them experimenting on
Children. I want to make sure that
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every man, every woman and every
child on the planet has the opportunity to
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grow up healthy, without interference and
function at the greatest capacity. I want
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to make sure that everybody has an
opportunity to know that their bodies were designed
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to be healthy. I want every
woman to know that she gets to choose
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how to birth her baby. It's
not a delivery, it's not a ups
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truck. A woman has the right
to choose how she births her baby and
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she has the right to know and
be empowered to feel that she can do
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it on our own is she so
chooses. So for me it's about why
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do we do what we do,
and if you stay connected to your why,
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then you can filter out all the
other stuff that comes at you,
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because opportunities will come, they may
not be the right ones for you.
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So knowing how to stay grounded to
what really matters is essential to being able
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to serve on a level that's right
for you. I love it. Yeah,
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I mean that's it's a beautiful way
to put it and you're so right.
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I feel like so many practitioners I
talked with, they lose their health,
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they lose their mind, they lose
their relationships in the act of service
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because, to your point, they're
not carving out that time. And so
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that was beautiful. Now, Um, we're kind of winding down here.
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There's so much you and I could
talk about. You hit on some really,
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really good stuff so far. You
mentioned accountability. Um, you mentioned
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women being part of something, you
know, that's bigger than themselves within chiropractic.
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Um, what are some opportunities out
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lot about that. Um. Are
there organizations they can join? Um?
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What would be your advice on that? Yes, I would. I would
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be remiss if I did not mention
that for the first time ever, we
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have a female president of the I
C A, Dr Selena Sacabouze Jackson,
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right, and she's phenomenal. She's
also not only is she the president of
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the I C A, she is
also the treasurer of the League of Chiropractic
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women, which she's one of the
founding members. I've I've served on the
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board. I'm very honored to be
on the Board for the last ten,
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twelve years. What we're ten years
old. So I've been on the board
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for for the majority of the last
ten years and we've got incredible women that
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not only serve on the board of
the L cw but that are members of
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the L CW. So League of
Chiropractic women was founded by a group of
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women that said, look, there's
all these organizations that serve us as chiropractors,
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but none specifically tailored to the unique
needs of women in Chiropractic and by
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women in Chiropractic. We're talking about
the Chiropractor, we're talking about spouses see
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as the admins at the different universities
and, of course, the students,
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as well as patient advocates. So
this organization was was formed in March to
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address the unique needs of women and
to help to help inspire women, empower
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women, connect women so that we
can thrive in practice and in our personal
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lives. And it's been so to
an honor and beyond the board Um.
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For anyone who's interested in finding out
more, just go to Elsie Women Dot
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Com or Elsie women dot com slash
joint to find out about joining. But
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it's a it's a wonderful opportunity to
get around like minded women that are driven,
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that are busy, that are doing
what you're doing and can either be
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a hand up or a helping hand
or just an arm to give you a
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hug when you need it and just
kind of say, yeah, I've been
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there, I know it's challenging,
but let's get through this together. And
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thankfully I've made some of the greatest
relationships of my life through the League of
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Chiropractic women by getting to know so
many of these amazing women. So there's
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lots of opportunities, you know,
with with one of our malpractice companies.
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Chirosecure, I get to host empowering
women and Chiropractic um one of the different
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boards that I sit on. I
get to do different Um weekly webinars where
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I get to bring on different speakers, sometimes men, sometimes women, but
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creating those opportunities for women is huge. When I started speaking, there were
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basically no women speaking on the platforms. It was Sharon Gorman, genie home
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and basically than Kathy winland just kind
of, you know, pushed the door
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open and got in there. But
when the League of Chiropractic women started,
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it was there was no such thing
as seeing women on platforms. And I
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went to the first event and recorded
all these different women that were just amazing
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and started reaching out to people like
Danny Knowles and saying hey, mile high
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has got a great event, here's
three women in your area that would be
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great speakers, and he was very
receptive to it. Him and his wife
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Rachelle, Paul Reid Cairo fest.
Hey Paul, here's some great women up
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in the Pacific northwest that would be
great for your stage and he was receptive
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to it. And little by little
the big events started putting women on their
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stages to the point where now,
like you know, when you go to
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cal gym, you're gonna see some
great women on that stage. You go
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to Chiro Fest, you go to
New Beginnings, you go to focus.
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Okay, see, you know,
like I could keep naming them mile high.
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They've all incorporated women onto their stages
and when and women in the audience
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see a woman on stage, they
resonate more because you understand me and I
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understand you and you understand where I'm
coming from and you were able to get
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to that level of success and if
you could do it, then perhaps I
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could do it. And so the
more we put women in those leadership positions
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and put women in those speaking positions, the more we empower the younger dots
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and the students and the prospective students
to look at this and go wow,
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I can do this. So to
to create those opportunities where women can come
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together is essential for the success of
women in our profession and to have successful
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women in our profession, I believe, is essential to chiropractic succeeding and reaching
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more people. I could not agree
more and that that was a beautiful and
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to a great conversation today. I
can't tell you how much. I appreciate
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you with your willingness to do this. You're you're leaving an incredible legacy and
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Chiropractic, both in your community,
your practice, with your work with these
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women's associations, as well as your
work at Life University. So I just
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want to applaud you and encourage you
and speak truth over you and just just
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say keep on going for us.
We need you and uh so I just
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want you to know how much we
appreciate you. I know Kyra touch appreciates
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you and for those that are on
this webinar today, I just want to
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applaud you for taking the time for
personal development. No better time spent than
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working on yourself, and I know
today's is going to really inspire you and
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hopefully it causes you to take some
beautiful action going forward because, like Kathy
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said, we need you right now, our profession needs you, the world
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needs you and it's time. And
so I'm excited for the future Chiropractic even
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more so aboutter today's call man.
That was great. I'm all fired up
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right now. Um and again I
want to thank Kira touch for their willingness
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to Um, look at the profession
and see that there is a need and
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that need is around leadership and helping
us grow healthy business. This is I
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mean, we're in the business of
saving lives and when business is good,
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everyone wins, and so I love
what you said about that. And I
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just think pier touch, great job
for having this Webinar, because this is
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going to make an impact and we're
gonna keep having these episodes. And Kathy,
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I want to make you a regular
guest on here because you are so
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inspiring. So once again I want
to thank you all and remember take time
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for yourself, like Cathy said,
work on yourself, make sure you get
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plenty of rest, make sure your
diets dialed in, make sure you get
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your cardio, make sure you do
your affirmations, make sure you have your
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quiet time, because the world's counting
on you right now. We needed you
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to be at your best. So, once again, thanks for tuning in
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and have a great day. By
thank you.
