My Journey from Patient to Practitioner to Practice Owner with Dr. Ronnie Simms

August 03, 2022 00:30:50
My Journey from Patient to Practitioner to Practice Owner with Dr. Ronnie Simms
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My Journey from Patient to Practitioner to Practice Owner with Dr. Ronnie Simms

Aug 03 2022 | 00:30:50

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Welcome to Catch Up with ChiroTouch with Dr. Ronnie Simms, the educational and inspirational podcast series featuring chiropractic’s most influential speakers.

In this episode, we flip the script and put our series host, Dr. Ronnie Simms, in the interview seat. Joined by stand-in host Dr. Brian Blask, Dr. Ronnie shares his chiropractic journey from patient to practice owner and everything in between. He opens up about the struggles and wins he’s encountered while building his business and emphasizes the important role chiropractic coaching has played in his success.

Catch Up With ChiroTouch (now ChiroCast) is brought to you by ChiroTouch, the leading chiropractic practice management and EHR software in the U.S. Visit us at www.chirotouch.com to learn how ChiroTouch can power your practice.

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:05.240 Thank you for tuning into this edition of catch up with Kira touch, and 2 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:09.199 today I'm your host, Dr Ronnie Simms, and I just want to first 3 00:00:09.199 --> 00:00:13.560 of all talk about Kira touch software real quick. I've been using Kira touch 4 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:17.320 for fifteen years. I love the software. It's allowed me to scale my 5 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:21.039 business and do things I never dreamed of, and I just want to also 6 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:26.079 appreciate, or show some appreciation, of Kira touch for their desire to host 7 00:00:26.320 --> 00:00:31.679 this podcast series Um as a way to really come alongside the profession, to 8 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.600 help inspire chiropractors, to help come alongside you, to learn more about business, 9 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.520 to learn from the best of the best, and we have been fortunate 10 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:44.359 to have some amazing guests on this show, from Dr Paul Read, Stephen 11 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:50.560 France and Bo Pierce, Kathy Kobe, Wenlan Um Nick and Stephanie Rod Sader, 12 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:54.640 Mark Mao, Alan Miner. I could keep going on and on and 13 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:58.079 on. I should say Matt Hover too, because he we just had him 14 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:00.240 on recently. It was a blast, but I've been the benefactor, as 15 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.480 have you, with these amazing episodes. I find myself taking notes as I'm 16 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:10.280 interviewing these great chiropractors because there's so much to learn from others, and so 17 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:12.680 for those of you that are tuning in today, I just want to applaud 18 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:17.159 you for taking the time for personal development. It's the best time you could 19 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:21.040 spend on becoming a better leader, not just with your staff but in your 20 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.879 community. And so today we're going to kind of flip the script and I'm 21 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:29.079 going to be co hosting with an amazing chiropractor in his own right, Dr 22 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:33.319 Brian Blast. Brian and I have had a chance to get to know each 23 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:37.760 other over the last three to four years. He is the the sales director 24 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:42.159 and UH pretty much runs the sales department at Kira touch, and Brian was 25 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.719 also a practicing D C for many years as well, so he knows the 26 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:49.480 INS and outs of Chiropractic and I just want to applaud Brian because I know, 27 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.560 in my view, Brian is helping more chiropractors right now from where he 28 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.560 sits. Then he was able to help in his practice because I'm telling you, 29 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.680 when you have the right software it allows you to operate at your best. 30 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:07.640 And Brian has an amazing sales team and they're bringing Chiro touch to so 31 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.240 many different people and they're helping humanity in such a huge way. So, 32 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:15.400 Brian, welcome back on the PODCAST. Dr Ronnick, thank you so much 33 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.360 for having me. The guests you've had have been amazing. So what you've 34 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:22.719 been able to do here with with the podcast, is really impressive. You 35 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:25.560 know, reaching out to that many chiropractors, that the platform here, being 36 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:30.479 able to communicate with so many different amazing chiropractors, is just helping people. 37 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:34.520 We don't realize right through conversations. Like you said, it's it's personal development, 38 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.000 it's professional development and you've done a great job and the guests are are 39 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.479 amazing. So keep up the great work and really appreciate what you're doing here. 40 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.000 I appreciate it. And Brian, so as we um kind of switch 41 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:49.080 roles here, I'm gonna have you be the host and I'll be the guest. 42 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:51.759 Um, give us a quick update as to what's been going on with 43 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.719 your just with your career Cairo touch. Yeah, so I've been at Cairo 44 00:02:55.800 --> 00:03:00.639 touch for over seven years now, UH, selling software. Back when we 45 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:04.479 were just the you know, the installed version. Now we've recently moved to 46 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.439 our cloud based product as well. So now you've got the the full cloud 47 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:12.120 offering which we released last year, and now I managed that sales team. 48 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:15.639 So we're able to branch out to so many different offices, show them the 49 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.960 demonstration, take care of their offices, streamline their practices. The whole idea 50 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.919 of why. You know, you talk about at about our hy and and 51 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.120 all. Then we'll get into that later in the conversation, I'm sure, 52 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:30.280 but being able to help practices right, that's what we love to do and 53 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.080 that's kind of the mantra at Cairo touches. We want to help you right. 54 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:35.639 We want to see what's going on in your practice, kind of dissected 55 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.520 a little bit through a demonstration, and really help you. Like we want 56 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.439 to make you more efficient and we know that Kiro touch can fit that if 57 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:44.120 it's the right the right type of practice right. We want. We want 58 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.199 to uh, we want to make you more efficient with not only your patient 59 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:50.199 care, but you're billing your flow so you can see more patients. We 60 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.599 want Chiropractic to reach more people and just Kiro touches as a tool that does 61 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:58.960 that. That's right. That's awesome. So with that, I'm gonna let 62 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:00.960 you take over from here and I guess I'll sit in the other seat for 63 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:05.719 a change. It's interesting for you to be sitting back and being the interviewee 64 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:10.159 now. It's all good, man. I look forward to it. So 65 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.439 let's get a little bit of a backstory. You're the one always asking questions. 66 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:15.519 You're the one that's always, you know, bringing people on and saying, 67 00:04:15.519 --> 00:04:18.959 okay, tell us your story, give us the inspiration. How about 68 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:24.639 you tell us your story. Tell tell the chiropractors out there. Who is 69 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.120 Dr Ronnie Sims? Oh Wow, yeah, I guess. For me I 70 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:32.279 had to go back to my early twenties injuring my back plane sports in college 71 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:38.839 and Um kind of stumbling into this whole thing called chiropractic. I was working 72 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.879 at a gym and a Lady Chiropractor, Dr Kim Raymond, who was an 73 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:46.560 amazing swimmer and athlete in her own right, and she was doing a free 74 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:50.759 screening at my gym and about two days before that I had injured my lumbar 75 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:55.639 spine doing some squads and I was in a lot of pain and again I 76 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:59.759 had no idea what chiropractic was, and she put me on this spinal analyzing 77 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:04.360 machine and drew the plumb lines and told me I was burying fifteen pounds more 78 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:08.759 weight on my right leg than my left, and I decided to go into 79 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.879 her office and go through a more thorough evaluation, and the rest is history. 80 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.720 It was an amazing the results I received within my moments after my first 81 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:21.000 adjustment, and so I decided to change my major from pre med to pre 82 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:26.439 Chiropractic, and uh, on and on I went. And then from that 83 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:31.000 point I um became an associate with an amazing practice in Long Beach, California, 84 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:35.360 with Dr Gregory Judd, who was a great mentor to me, Wonderful 85 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:40.319 Chiropractor, and Dr Judd taught me so much about the INS and outs of 86 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:44.319 Chiropractic, not just how to take care of people, but how to communicate 87 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.199 with them and how to inspire them and how to manage them and how to 88 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:51.639 really help them get the most out of their experience. And so from that 89 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:57.279 experience I decided to move back north to where I was from, Eldorado Hills, 90 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:00.959 California, about thirty miles east of Sacramento, and started back to health 91 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.480 chiropractic in nineteen nineties, six and and that's really how the whole thing started. 92 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:11.439 And here we are today. I have fifteen employees. I'm getting ready 93 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:15.519 to onboard my fourth associate, uh, so I'll have a total of five 94 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:17.759 doctors, including myself, and I'm just having more fun now than I've ever 95 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:21.800 had. So everyone always has that chiropractic ah kind of like Ah, I'm 96 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:25.639 doing this, this is how I want to spend the rest of my life, 97 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:28.560 but this is this is the avenue I want to go because I can 98 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.519 see that this is going to help people. It help me. This is 99 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.879 where I want to be as a chiropractor. So I love hearing those stories. 100 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.560 Right, mind, the same way as I was in college and went 101 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.079 to a chiropractic and I was like, oh, people want to come see 102 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:42.560 you, they want to get better, like and you can use your hands 103 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.079 now and really affect the population. It's a beautiful thing. So let's talk 104 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.639 kind of the business side, right. Is this your dream practice? You 105 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.959 know, what type of legacy do you want to leave? Kind of talk 106 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:56.959 with the mindset there of that type of growth that you've gone through. That's 107 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.639 a great question. I feel like, like many of us, I started 108 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.399 out on my own. I really couldn't afford an associate, I could barely 109 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:08.079 afford a see A. I to have a my wife work part time and 110 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:11.600 it was just the early days are tough for a lot of us and I 111 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:15.399 remember building my practice through just a lot of effort. I remember doing a 112 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:19.759 community canvas before I opened my doors. For thirty days I knocked on every 113 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:25.199 potential door I could knock on, both businesses and residents, just to find 114 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:29.600 out about the community and to introduce myself to the community. And Uh it 115 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:35.399 just I did countless spinal screenings, public lectures, referral groups, anything and 116 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:41.480 everything, I did it and I began to build this practice quite rapidly and 117 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:46.639 I had this inflection point as I was building this practice and realizing that the 118 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.879 impact I was having on my community was not as great as I thought it 119 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:54.519 could be, because I was seeing as many people as I could potentially see. 120 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:58.759 And I think many doctors they run into that, that that kind of 121 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:03.040 dead end where they're like, I can't possibly see more people, and yet 122 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.839 I'm not having the impact on this community like I thought I would. I 123 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.959 was making great money, but I was working a lot and I was trying 124 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:13.439 to be a coach and trying to do all these things with my children, 125 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:20.360 but it was really exhausting, and so I um I decided to go visit 126 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.439 Dr Matt Hubbard in San Diego because I heard all these stories about things Matt 127 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.800 was doing, and I went down and shadowed him for a day and a 128 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:33.480 half, and this is probably two thousand six seven and I'm maybe eleven years 129 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.519 into my practice, ten years, and I was so amazed by what he 130 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.559 was doing. Most of all, I was amazed by how effected his team 131 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.200 was. I found myself watching as Cias more than I was watching him and 132 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.120 he had a wonderful associate at the time and he had scaled this beautiful practice. 133 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.799 But I was seeing these C A S and how in control they were 134 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:58.480 and how inspirational they were and and I just kind of left that meeting with 135 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.399 that under standing of I either need to readjust my vision for what I want 136 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:09.480 to do or I need to scale my practice and grow it um well beyond 137 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.600 what I could do. And so that was kind of that inflection point where 138 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.480 I decided I don't want to change my vision because, like you said earlier, 139 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.840 Brian, not enough people are under chiropractic care and, like you said, 140 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.399 having a good software program can help you see more people and it can 141 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:30.559 help more chiropractors see more people, because the bottom line is not enough Americans 142 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.240 are seeing chiropractors right now, not if people in the world are seeing chiropractors 143 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:39.159 right now. We need to keep grinding as chiropractors to get a greater degree 144 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.080 of population under regular chiropractic care. You and I both know the world would 145 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:48.000 be a far better place when people are are adjusted on a regular basis and 146 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.399 when their nervous systems are working better. We just know people are happier, 147 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.759 they're more vibrant and they're healthier. And so that's kind of my current vision 148 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.519 is. I just want to see I want to grow my team. Tell 149 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.039 I don't have any more energy you to do it and it's time for me 150 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.960 to move on. So that's kind of the legacy I'm setting up. Um, 151 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.799 I love how I can go to my practice on a Friday and nobody 152 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:09.559 knows me. I don't see clients on a Friday. I could walk in 153 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:16.559 my adjustatorium and nobody knows me, and that anonymity is really what I'm I'm 154 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.679 working toward because I wanted to be about Chiropractic, not about me. It's 155 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.360 a great point to say that okay, I want to affect more people. 156 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.720 Like I'm seeing as many people as I can see. I'm busy. I'm 157 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.679 very busy. How can other chiropractors do what you did and scale and see 158 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.639 more people? Right? How do they how are you able to affect more 159 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.879 people and go down that road of that vision and get over that Hump and 160 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:41.879 take it to the next level? What's that stuff? What's that like? 161 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.639 That's a great question. You know, if you look at them, as 162 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.159 Dr Franson would say, there's four seasons. You've got the launch of your 163 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:56.080 practice, which is just a lot of blood, sweat and tears right when 164 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.399 you launch it, and then you're building it. And so many doctors, 165 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.840 like you said, they die on the hill of trying to build their practice. 166 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:07.519 They get injured, they burn out and they just realized I this is 167 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:09.799 too hard, I can't keep building this thing, and that's kind of where 168 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.960 I went and visited Matt. I was still building and then I decided I 169 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.080 need to scale it. And we always say if you're seeing like a hundred 170 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.639 and seventy five a week or more, and I was around two fifty to 171 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:24.960 three a week, you can't see that manymore. Some guys can. I 172 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.399 couldn't. I just didn't want to. And then I realized, Gosh, 173 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.159 I like to mountain bike, I like to ski. Those are very dangerous 174 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.440 sports and I was realizing I had good disability insurance, but I don't want 175 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.960 to live on disability insurance and that doesn't do anything for my community. If 176 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.840 I'm out, my practice is gonna die, basically, and so I started 177 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.720 looking at it kind of from a bunch of different angles and decided I need 178 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:54.159 to start creating an associate onboarding program and I started hiring associates and I've learned 179 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.519 so much about that. In the beginning I had everything wrong, but I 180 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:03.519 kept you know, and then finally I went through some seasoning and got coaching. 181 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:07.720 So I guess to answer your Question Is, get some coaching. I've 182 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:11.000 never gone without a coach. And also, you know, don't just do 183 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:16.159 the bare bones minimum ce credits. Go to these inspiring seminars. GO TO 184 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.399 D E, go to Cairo Fest, go to caw jam, go to 185 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.639 the wave, go to these seminars that are going to inspire you, that 186 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:30.399 are going to motivate you, and start hanging out with people that are doing 187 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.399 what you want to do. That's what I did and and and I don't 188 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:35.559 know about you, but, like I'm in three, or yeah, three 189 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:39.879 different mastermind groups to or chiropractic. One is more for businesses and CEOS. 190 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:45.639 But I need those masterminds. I need the accountability, I need the connectivity. 191 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.919 I when I'm isolated, I'm terrible. I am not effective at all 192 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:54.759 when I'm in isolation. So get a coach and and inspire yourself, push 193 00:12:54.759 --> 00:13:00.759 yourself, put yourself in uncomfortable situations and join a mastermind group and put yourself 194 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.639 out there and then hire an associate, but do it the right way. 195 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:09.039 Uh. I use a company called Chira matchmakers. Shameless plug for them, 196 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.559 but it really takes a lot of the hard work out of the human resource 197 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.320 side of things. Uh. They will help pare me with the right type 198 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.440 of associate for what I'm looking for. Like me, I'm looking for caregivers 199 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.840 right now. I'm not looking for necessarily business builders or somebody who wants their 200 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:31.080 own practice. I'm looking for somebody who just loves CHIROPRACTIC AND WANTS TO TAKE 201 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.559 CARE of people. Uh. And that's really something you gotta Ask Yourself. 202 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.679 What are you looking for? Are you looking to keep growing your practice? 203 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.440 Are you looking to take more time off your practice? So I think it 204 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:43.879 really depends on what you want, but I think that's kind of what I 205 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.879 would advise people is get a coach and begin to write out your vision and 206 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.279 and and change your vision. It's okay to change your vision. I mean, 207 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:54.919 I've talked to a couple of hikers that have done Everest. They go 208 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.720 the hike to get the base camp is amazing. It is so hard just 209 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.200 to get the base camp. Then a'll a sudden they get the base camp 210 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.559 and they have a different view now, a different perspective. So maybe your 211 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.320 vision was only base camp and it wasn't big enough. So maybe you need 212 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.519 to re clarify your vision. It's a great point. A lot of great 213 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.759 points that I want to touch on. The main one there that really struck 214 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.039 home here with me was what I'm doing at Kira touch as well, is 215 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.759 is the team building you mentioned earlier with Matt's team, right, his sea's 216 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:22.960 and I saw they're doing a lot like it's part of it's part of his 217 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.919 practice and his vision. Same with you, right, you're building a team 218 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.039 with employees and seas and associates. I mean I do the same thing right. 219 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:33.279 I have to bring on people to help sell Kira touch and reach out 220 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.720 to practice and see what they're using, see how we can help them. 221 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.159 And hiring is extremely important. Matching who I am and who I like to 222 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:46.720 work with right is very important. It's important to how that I we build 223 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.039 a team at Kira touch. This is a career position. Kira touch is 224 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.240 the biggest, one of the biggest brands in Chiropractic, right, and to 225 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.840 work here you you have to be the right fit and you gotta want to 226 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:01.080 you want to want to work and you're gonna want to train and we're gonna 227 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.960 take it as a as a team. We're gonna work together and the reason 228 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:07.200 that cayro touch has been so successful for such a long period of time is 229 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.840 because the product is amazing. Let's be honest. The product is phenomenal, 230 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.480 but it's a team. Right. Cararo touches a team. There's a bunch 231 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.559 of people that work together to achieve goals, right, setting those goals as 232 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.159 high as we can and reaching them working together, having a plan and working 233 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.080 that plan and we scale that way. It's the same thing for your practice, 234 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:30.759 right. You work together and then you, you have your a mastermind, 235 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.600 essentially a team for you. Right, you're able to work around those 236 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:41.720 people that are successful. Right. That's how you provide yourself with cohorts, 237 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.440 colleagues that are successful. You're saying, as you're you know, to some 238 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.279 of your parts, put you and serve. You want to surround yourself with 239 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.279 the most successful people. Just brings you up, right, because, I 240 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.679 mean, if you're hang out people are less sucessful, they're always, you 241 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.440 know, to look up to you and you don't go. So you always 242 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:00.519 look, you always want to hang out with those that are like mastermind, 243 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.080 that our people are more successful or as successful. To do so you can 244 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:07.799 push each other and do the same thing. Right at at Kyra touch and 245 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:11.360 in our lives, we want to become more successful people, whether it's your 246 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:14.679 family, you know, your personal life, your friends. I mean, 247 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:18.159 those are the types of things I think you get that get lost on us 248 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.120 as we go through uh and we go through that sometimes it's it's a bit 249 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:23.120 of a grind, you know, and that you said that building of that 250 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.919 career, when you get to a point and you've gotta have that vision, 251 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.639 you gotta sit back and you've got to think and you need people toping to 252 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:34.679 do that with it's I think it's very important. Um. So moving forward, 253 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.200 you know what, what are the main things that you have, I 254 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.360 guess you that you can share from the people? Maybe a quick, quick 255 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:47.120 little synopsis here for our listeners that maybe haven't listened to all the episodes with 256 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:48.519 with catch up with Kyra touch and all the guests you have like, what 257 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.840 are the main points or themes that you've gotten from these guests that you could 258 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.279 really kind of just quickly throw some tidbits out there that I really helped people? 259 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:02.200 Wow, yeah, okay. So for me the big thing is the 260 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:03.720 domains of practice, right, and you kind of touched on this a little 261 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:10.039 bit with what you're building there at Kira touch. is every business in America 262 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:14.400 has to attract customers, right, and so we always talk about the attraction 263 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:19.319 domain, which for the Chiropractor is marketing essentially, and we always talk in 264 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:25.880 Chiropractic in our groups and my mastermind about you've got outside in marketing. That 265 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.880 could be a spinal screening, it could be corporate wellness, it could be 266 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:33.240 speaking at your chamber or whatever, being in a referral group. Then you 267 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.039 have the inside out referrals, which are some of those are just organic. 268 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.480 They just happen because they happen, but they can also be a vent driven. 269 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.880 So you've got the third domain would be digital. And now in today's 270 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.519 world you have to have a strong digital presence and a strong Google presence, 271 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.759 and so for us we have to attract but then once they come in, 272 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:57.920 you have to have processes and procedure procedures in place to be able to convert 273 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:03.200 them to becoming your client. And often they come in as kind of seekers, 274 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:06.920 H chiropractic patients. They come in they're not sure. Often they're new 275 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:08.880 to it, maybe not, but if they are, they're kind of seeking 276 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.200 it. Then you take them and convert them into being a believer because you 277 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:18.200 give them great results and you give them great advice. So now you've converted 278 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:22.160 them and then you have to work on retaining them, which really comes down. 279 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.599 RETENTION COMES DOWN TO CONVICTION and clarity. Like you have to have absolute 280 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:33.240 clarity around your systems in your office, your process, your procedure. So 281 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.240 many chiropractors I meet they have so many different prices and different care plans and 282 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.119 they just they kind of wing it, you know, and they're not system 283 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:44.799 based at all. Chiropractors have noted for that. We're very kind of free 284 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:48.920 spirited and and yet you can still be that way within the structure of process 285 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:53.279 procedure like your day one procedure, your day to, your report of findings, 286 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:59.519 Um your call to action. And then, lastly, beyond attraction, 287 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:03.519 conversion retention, is team building. You mentioned team building. You have to 288 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.200 work hard on building a team and you and I are both sports fans and 289 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:11.640 you know you and I could talk about our favorite pro football teams and I'm 290 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.359 very thankful that the raiders spent the offseason working on building their team. Like 291 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.839 they went out and they went out and I took care of some weaknesses. 292 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.160 And so, as in your practice right now, as you're scaling it hopefully, 293 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.200 what kind of player do you need right now? You know what are 294 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.000 you looking for? For me, I wanted a lady chiropractor because I knew 295 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.680 I couldn't serve a big part of my community away. A dynamic, passionate 296 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:38.000 lady D C could. And so that was twelve years ago. Thirteen years 297 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:42.599 ago I hired the amazing Dr Krista on my team and she's been great. 298 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:47.559 She's helped me build our team. Then we got an amazing integrator, Jen, 299 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.920 who is kind of the pepper potts and our practice of behind the scenes 300 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.400 making sure based adheres to the process, procedure, training the seas, hitting 301 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:00.839 the doctors over the head when we need be. And and so we began 302 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.799 to assemble this team. And then I added a young gun, Dr Colby, 303 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.079 who grew up in my practice and he's just this empathetic, caregiving, 304 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:12.720 high energy practitioner and and he's helping me scale to a new level in areas 305 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.720 I never could have on my own. And so as I'm building this dream 306 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.759 of vision, this dream practice, I know right now I'm adding Dr Vance. 307 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:25.240 He's my next player. High Energy, high empathy, and but yet 308 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.839 wants to be mentored, is hungry, wants to be coached, wants to 309 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.839 be poured into. And so, as you look at your team, what 310 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:36.519 I did is I built my my dream vision. I wrote that on a 311 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:38.039 paper. I have a vision board. What does that look like? How 312 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:41.640 many visits? What's my annual revenue? How many new patients? What does 313 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:45.799 that look like? How many locations? How many staff members? And I 314 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.079 built my dream or chart, and right now I'm in the process of building 315 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:52.920 towards that ultimate dream or chart, which for me is, I really think, 316 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.039 eight to ten associates, and right now I'm getting ready to be well, 317 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.839 I count myself as an associate because I'm one of the care providers. 318 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.400 So there's five of us, including myself. So we need three to four 319 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.720 more to reach this vision. So, as you look at your vision, 320 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.960 and by the way, my accountability group that I'm in are all doctors who 321 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:17.960 are doing very similar things, some even greater. And to your point is 322 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.640 yeah, I mean the whole tides raising in our group because we hold each 323 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:25.759 other accountable and we have a facilitator who gets in our face and holds us 324 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:29.440 to these CEO rhythms that we must follow. And so I think, Um, 325 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:30.759 you know. The other thing would be finance. You have attraction, 326 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:36.799 conversion, retention, team building and finance. Um, how are you managing 327 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:40.559 your money? You know. Are you putting money aside? Um, you 328 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.839 know. How are your collections? You know everything finance. Are you doing 329 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:47.319 billion are you not doing billing? And how are you leveraging your software? 330 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:51.000 Um, how are you leveraging billing services? And Kira touch has an amazing 331 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.160 billing service. And what kind of things are you leveraging that are out there 332 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.920 in the profession for you? Right, and so, um, those are 333 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.559 kind of that would be my five big thing. Um, if I had 334 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:04.519 to give you five rhythms I think every doctor needs to have going strong in 335 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.839 this practice. That would be it. Yeah, that's phenomenal. I mean 336 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.960 those people that are listening to this just really need to rewind for two or 337 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:14.519 three minutes and listen to that again, because that was that was beautiful. 338 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.079 Uh, some of the things that you you touch on there that I love. 339 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.599 Our process and presentation. Every single business has to have this. You 340 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.279 have to have your systems right, you have to have something set in place. 341 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:26.960 Then you have to work through that. Right. There's a there's a 342 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:33.200 process that goes into every you know you're to every patient, to your report 343 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:34.519 of findings. You know the presentation and how you communicate. Let me, 344 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:37.880 patient communication and education is one of the biggest things. It's the same thing 345 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.559 that I do. It's the same thing. Right, we talked about process 346 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.640 and presentation every single day, every day of my life, we talked about 347 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:49.559 process and presentation. How are you approaching these offices when we're calling them? 348 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:53.039 How are we how are representing CAIRA touch? How are we? How are 349 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.319 we communicating with people? Right? I mean, are we asking the right 350 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.000 questions? It's the same thing when you're educating your peace it right. It's 351 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.359 very similar. And what we do at Kira touch into what you do as 352 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.880 a chiropractor. It's very similar. These systems are in place for a reason. 353 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.559 It breeds success. So follow the system, but you have to have 354 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:12.079 that in place. If you don't have that in place, that you say 355 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.839 you're going on Willy Nilly, nothing's gonna work. Right. You might get 356 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.519 to where you need to go, but barely right. If you've got the 357 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.279 system in place and you're going through the process of presentation, everything is going 358 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:26.359 to work. So let me talk to you about what's next. What's next 359 00:23:26.920 --> 00:23:30.799 for you? What's next for the podcast? Right, because I mean now 360 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.440 that you're the you know you're you're seeing all these uh guests all the time. 361 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:34.920 I mean, what do you have? What vision do you have for 362 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:37.839 that? What vision do you have for for practice and for running sims? 363 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.200 That's a great question. I feel like. I wanted to add one thing 364 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:47.200 to the prior comments, and you made me think of this. Within those 365 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:52.359 rhythms in our practice is a culture of training, and you mentioned it earlier. 366 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.599 How often are you sitting down with your team and role playing? How 367 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.079 often in your practice are you practicing the new patient phone call or the tour 368 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:06.880 of your office or the day one exam process? How often are you training? 369 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.200 And I'm not talking about meetings, and we have plenty of meetings. 370 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.680 Um, we have our issues list and we do all that, but I'm 371 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.559 talking about role playing where you sit down and go, okay, you're the 372 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:21.559 new patient who's calling, you're the pick person taking the call. Go and 373 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:25.880 we all sit and watch and take notes and we train all the time. 374 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.359 And so that would be the secret sauce that spreads within those rhythms. To 375 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:36.920 your next question, Um, what's next for me as a leader in Chiropractic? 376 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.240 Um, I love doing what I'm doing now with you. I just 377 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:44.440 want to inspire chiropractors to be at their best. I think we always say 378 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:48.799 what the world needs now more than ever is chiropractors to be at their best. 379 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.000 We don't need you operating. It's at your potential as a chiropractor, 380 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.359 and so it's time for you to roll up your sleeves build your team and 381 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.160 begin to have a greater impact in your community. And so having all these 382 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:04.720 guests on and having these podcasts, they're evergreen. there. Therefore, you 383 00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:10.119 go back into the Kira touch library, if you're watching this today, and 384 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.759 begin to listen to these episodes and take notes in journal Right. I mean 385 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:17.200 so often we go to seminars, right, we get so inspired and we 386 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:19.759 take notes and then, you know, Monday, Tuesday, then by in 387 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:23.000 the next Friday it's kind of faded again and then we've got to have that 388 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.400 annual boost. You know, I gotta go back to the wave. I 389 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:30.599 gotta go back and I'm saying you know, that's where the Accountability Groups and 390 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.640 the coaching can just keep you engage. It keeps you hardwired and anchored into 391 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.160 what you need to be doing as a leader. And for me I think 392 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.720 we need more guys doing what, more guys and gals and and by the 393 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.119 way, I had Kathy Kobe when Lannon and she's amazing and I think she's 394 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:51.000 spot on. I think lady chiropractors are a critical element to the future of 395 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:55.920 Chiropractic. So right now, if you're a woman chiropractor, you are you 396 00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:59.200 have no idea how impactful you can be. So I think that's a big 397 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:02.880 part of our future and for me I want to leave a legacy. I 398 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:07.119 want my business and practice to thrive and grow after I'm gone. Um I 399 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.599 know several guys who have done that. Paul Reid has done that, Stephen 400 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.839 Franson has done that, um mark male is gonna do that and there's all 401 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:21.200 these guys that are building up these incredible businesses that are not personality practices. 402 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.200 And back to your point, you've got these process of procedures that give you 403 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:29.480 guardrails and then within that you can still be the free spirited chiropractor as long 404 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.000 as you have those guardrails and and you can still have your personality be a 405 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.039 big part of it. But if you're building your practice on personality alone, 406 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.920 you're not scaling it and it's not worth as much as you think. When 407 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.000 you go to sell a personality practice, you're lucky to get point five of 408 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.400 your annual revenue because if they take you out of it, what's it worth? 409 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:52.079 Versus if you do what I'm doing, where you build a practice where 410 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.839 right now I haven't shrunk my load. I'm still one of the top performers 411 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.640 on my team. But our revenue is at a point now where I'm less 412 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.279 than of the Revenue Pie. So if somebody comes to buy my practice someday, 413 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.000 they're gonna look at that and go, Oh, I can replace that, 414 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:12.880 I can replace we can backfill there. If you're of your practice and 415 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.839 you've got a bunch of associates run around helping you, that's not what I'm 416 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:19.759 talking about here. I'm talking about like for me, my associates need to 417 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:23.960 see one fifty a week minimum. That's a minimum expectation of our team. 418 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:27.759 So define that. What does that look like? Um, and I don't 419 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:32.920 want the other thing. My other principles right now is I don't want my 420 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:37.640 associates growing through my dilution. Someday I'll dilute, but that's not how I 421 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.920 want to grow them. That's not a good model. Um, you know, 422 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.240 I want to grow them independent of me and and and so that's kind 423 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.000 of my legacy is I wanna. I want to leave chiropractic better than I 424 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.960 found it. Right, and I know I can't have my head down on 425 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:56.039 my bottom up forever. My disks and only last so long. My carpal 426 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.359 tunnel could only last so long and I take good care of myself, but 427 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.319 I just know at at almost age fifty eight, I have the energy. 428 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.160 And so now what I'm doing is I'm spending more time working on it rather 429 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.319 than in it. I love that, and so that's kind of my legacy, 430 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.039 Brian is. I truly love being a Chiropractic CEO. I can't imagine 431 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.960 not doing that. Um, so I think my legacy is to keep building 432 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:25.279 my practice into something that I'm not even seeing clients anymore, where I'm helping 433 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:29.720 run the business as a CEO would, and that's kind of my legacy. 434 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.400 And then maybe someday I sell, I retire or the good Lord takes me 435 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.440 home, but at least I will leave something behind. It's durable, right, 436 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.279 and it's exitable. How many of you on this call have a practice 437 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.319 that's exitable where you're gonna exit with the amount of money you need to live 438 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.240 the rest of your days without relying on social security? Right? So that's 439 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.519 a long answer to really where my head is, and really I want chiropractors 440 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.839 to think this way. I totally agree. You have to have you have 441 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:03.799 to have that exit strategy and you gotta start working on it now. I'd 442 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.160 say it, but you really do right now. You have to. And 443 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:08.680 one of the things you said earlier, which is I think it's a key 444 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:12.200 takeaway from a lot of people right here, is the world's open back up. 445 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.559 We have these shows where you have this education. Now that's out there 446 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.200 for us, and go go back out there, get inspired by other chiropractors 447 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.440 down on the podcast. Subscribe, like you said. You go to that, 448 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.720 you go to the seminar, you get inspired. Monday or Tuesday hit 449 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:27.279 and you're like, Oh man, well, guess what? Kyra touches is 450 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.400 releasing a podcast every couple of weeks with Dr Ronnie Sims and phenomenal guests. 451 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.039 So you can get that inspiration. You subscribe to it. Boom It pops 452 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:37.039 up on your phone, you listen to it on your commute, listening in 453 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:38.559 your lunch ower. You lit't do it. When you work it out, 454 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.200 it helps you. Trust me. I consume a ton through podcasts. That's 455 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:49.000 a great way to educate yourself and to inspire yourself every single day. Well, 456 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.599 doc, thanks again for being the interviewee. Normally you are the one 457 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.759 asking all the questions, so I appreciate you're flipping the script and letting me 458 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.400 UH interview you today. It's been really fun, Brian. I always enjoy 459 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:06.279 my time with you and, uh, I'm really excited about all the stuff 460 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.759 you guys are doing over there and, uh, I just think it's it's 461 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:14.000 a great way for the chiropractor to really scale his business. I really appreciate 462 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.519 and again, I know this podcast is not about selling software. Um, 463 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:23.680 it's really about inspiring and educating and motivating chiropractors too, to play all out 464 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.519 right, to leave it on the field. Let's go right. I appreciate 465 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.839 doc and everyone else. Thank you again for tuning in to catch up with 466 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:36.119 Kira touch. I was your co host, Dr Brian Blast, with Dr 467 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.480 Ronnie Sims. Thank you very much. Have a well adjusted day.

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Straight from our very own ChiroTouch marketing team, Mariness Didulo and Sanjil Kumar join Dr. Brian Blask to share tips from their eBook, The...

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February 10, 2021 00:15:32
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Clearinghouse Basics

In this episode of Catch Up With ChiroTouch, ChiroTouch trainer Dr. Tami Howard is joined by Crystal Ewing, chair of The National Clearinghouse Association’s...

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August 14, 2020 00:13:18
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The Use of Technology in a Chiropractic Practice

In this episode of Catch Up With ChiroTouch, Dr. Brian Blask speaks with Dr. Richard Allen, a solo practitioner and longtime ChiroTouch user, about...

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